GOP presidential nominee John McCain repeatedly emphasized the words 'fight' and 'change' in his speech Thursday at the GOP convention. (Mary Knox Merrill/Staff)
McCain appeals to moderates with vow to reform GOP
But his policy agenda largely reflects the Bush administration's stands on tax cuts and the Iraq war.
By Linda Feldmann | Staff writer/ September 5, 2008 edition
St. Paul, Minn.
The central challenge of John McCain’s presidential campaign was on full display Thursday night as he accepted the Republican nomination for president.
In stark terms, Senator McCain indicted his own party – and implicitly, the Republican president, George Bush – for losing its way.
“I fight to restore the pride and principles of our party,” McCain said. “We were elected to change Washington and we let Washington change us. We lost the trust of the American people when some Republicans gave in to the temptations of corruption. We lost their trust when rather than reform government, both parties made it bigger.”
“The party of Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Reagan is going to get back to basics,” he added, speaking in a convention hall where the word “Republican” was nowhere to be seen.
But when he got to the policy portion of the speech, McCain showed himself to be largely in sync with Bush, supporting the war in Iraq, promoting tax cuts in the name of job creation, and railing against judges who “legislate from the bench.”
Such is the difficult task of a nominee trying to succeed a two-term president from one’s own party, a feat that has failed more often than not in American history. The challenge for McCain was to reach beyond the arena full of loyal party activists, some of whom had long been skeptical of McCain’s bona fides as a Republican, and attract independent and moderate voters without alienating his base. In this election cycle, the task may be more difficult than usual, with a deeply unpopular incumbent president and party.
Two words recurred throughout the speech: change and fight. Having reached about as far away from Washington as he could in putting conservative reformer Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on the ticket with him, he tried to steal the “change” thunder from Democratic nominee Barack Obama – and used the word 10 times in his speech. The word “fight” came up 25 times, steady reminders of his combative style, his storied history as a Navy man and prisoner of war, and his promise to stick up for average Americans if elected.
Perhaps the most effective part of the speech, at least in terms of rallying the crowd, came at the end, when he invited listeners to “fight with me, fight with me,” then built up a rhythm in listing what he wants to fight for – “what’s right for our country,” “the ideals and character of a free people,” “our children’s future,” and “justice and opportunity for all.”
McCain also described in some detail the story of his Vietnam experience, an aspect of his life he does not discuss much on the campaign trail but which some strategists have urged him to do. Most important, he explained the transformative effect his captivity had on him.
“I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else’s,” he said. “I loved it not just for the many comforts of life here. I loved it for its decency; for its faith in the wisdom, justice, and goodness of its people. I loved it because it was not just a place, but an idea, a cause worth fighting for. I was never the same again. I wasn’t my own man anymore. I was my country’s.”
McCain also emphasized a longstanding theme in his political career, his willingness to work across the aisle – and promised more of the same if elected.
“The constant partisan rancor that stops us from solving these problems isn’t a cause, it’s a symptom,” he said. “It’s what happens when people go to Washington to work for themselves and not you. Again and again, I’ve worked with members of both parties to fix problems that need to be fixed. That’s how I will govern as president.”
After praising Mr. Obama early in his speech – a bow to the young African-American senator’s feat of gaining the Democratic nomination, following Governor Palin’s harsh attacks the night before – McCain then laid out the case against Obama, both on policy and on approach.
“I will reach out my hand to anyone to help me get this country moving again,” McCain said. “I have that record and the scars to prove it. Senator Obama does not.”
Even if McCain did not electrify the arena as much as Palin had the night before, the senator still won praise from delegates.
Elgine McArdle, a lawyer and alternative delegate from Wheeling, W. Va., said the absence of “pomp and circumstance” in the speech was a testament to McCain’s character.
“He told of his exploits in Vietnam not for the purpose of elevating himself, but elevating his country,” she said.
“He was soft-spoken and humble,” she added, in contrast to what she saw as Obama’s “arrogance and flamboyance.”
William De La O, a delegate from Brownsville, Texas, and retired engineer, said that McCain’s willingness to criticize corruption in his own party shows his backbone.
“You can’t necessarily say one party is cleaner than the other because the temptation is the same for both,” he said. “He has the resolve to say what he stands for.”
Nita Waddell, an alternate delegate from Hope, Ark., and retired social worker, said she liked McCain’s speech but that it was Palin’s address Wednesday that finally sold her on a ticket she had some misgivings about – mostly because of McCain’s support for campaign-finance-reform measures that conservatives view as an infringement on free speech.
“Palin made the difference, baby,” she said, stomping her feet and clapping.
– Staff writer Ariel Sabar contributed to this report.
Comments
2. Jonathon | 09.05.08
McCain said he would stop sending 700 billion dollars a year to countries that don’t like us very much. He said he will veto earmarks and expose the politicians who attempt to add the pork. He also talked about being bi-partisian and appointing Democrats to his administration.
I find it interesting that the only thing you got out of his speech is
“George Bush”. It’s possible that’s the only thing you wanted to hear.
3. Ted | 09.05.08
I am getting tired of hearing how McSame is/was a POW every time his face appears on the TV. Yes, I know he served with honor and spent time in the Hanoi Hilton. Big Deal, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time! We do not owe him the highest office in the nation because of that misfortune! I am a vetran (USARMY 1967-1970) and many of my friends were in the wrong place at the wrong time and we put their names on a wall. McSame got out alive and needs to earn his place at the table; However, it appears he thinks he deserves it.
4. LOUIS J KMIEC JR | 09.05.08
Obama does not even hold a candle to McCain. How can you vote for anyone else. McCain picking Palin was truly another great decision by McCain. We will be at a big lose if he does not get in the White House.
5. MacNaught P. | 09.05.08
God help the rest of the world if McCain gets in to power. he is a raving militarist who would gladly thrust this world into the third world war to satisfy his own ambitions and his perceived ambitions for America. It is a pity that America has the reputation outside its own boarders that their mentality can be summed up in the simple phrase, if you don’t understand it, Kill it. I am british but would gladly take up arms against America as I believe that apart from being the biggest terrorist organisation on the planet youn also pose the greatest threat to the ecological survival of this planet.
6. Ohio | 09.05.08
I agreee with Louis….Obama does not even come close to deserving the credit McCain and Palin deserve. I was sooooo very moved by both of their speeches and what they actually stand for. They truly are FOR THE PEOPLE and our beautiful country! Obama is just a well dressed fraud looking to better his career. Personally, I don’t know a single person voting for Obama (Yes, I know there a millions out there), but I do know several Democrats that will be voting republican for the first time! To all those people in the middle, THANK YOU for actually taking a look at the facts and supporting the TEAM that will support and defend our country at all cause. Never underestimate 9-11 or forget how being vulnerable can be a tragedy!
7. Pablo | 09.05.08
Was I the only one that noticed the “booooing”? and the people protesting right inside? I did not see that during the democratic week. It goes to prove that we are fed up with people like McSame (I like that from Ted before), this guy is just going to keep the same nonsense going. I watched the show on Starz about how the republicans hacked into the voting machines to make the votes count as 3 during the bush years. Remember how confident GW was during his second term election sitting there with his parents while Al Gore sat there knowing he was the next president? Yet that stupid smirk on GW’s face that he always carries as if he constantly needs to remind us that “he has it like that”. Like Andrew Dice Clay said about himself once, “He’s got that kind of cash”. Election day needs to be made a national holiday so we all can participate in the voting process and keep these idiots out of the ballots. Let this country come back to some kind of normality and not something that is being managed on an office on top of a topless bar by guys who take a piece of every business they can get their hands on. That is all I have to say.
8. Morgan | 09.05.08
The GOP has the White House Now!!! Why don’t they stop change their ways Now!! Maybe them I would believe them then. It looks like Mc Cain wants to layoff as many federal worker as he can. He calls it waste. I call it jobs. Bush should start retraining them now. Many more people will be unemployed. A tax cut does you no good if you are not working. Show me Now!!! They only lie.
9. Kevin Pierce | 09.05.08
NOMINATE IS ENOUGH
NEWSWIRE–The Republican National convention has ended.
As delegates don’t capture me,
And speakers seldom rapture me,
I’ve wandered some, as my attention’ll do:
Tonight, I’m thrilled the network news
Will reach beyond two-party views,
And give to me, my unconventional due.
http://www.newsandverse.com
Light verse, ripped from the headlines
10. dan | 09.05.08
I can always tell the difference between a journalist with ethics and a hack. A hack will always state something like…”with a deeply unpopular incumbent president and party” without ever recognizing that Bush is a two term president who’s approval ratings have consistedly hooverd around 30% in a time, when the nation is the most divided in recent history, largely in part to the devisive actions of democratic leadership.
Contrast that to when the democrats took control of Congress two years ago, when it had a 40% approval rating and now it is lowest I believe in history…currently about half of the evil republican’s president.
Intellectual dishonesty seems to permeate the field of journalism. I would wager that Bush has a more favorable rating than the media at large. Last week’s vicious attacks on Sarah Palin’s family speaks for itself.
11. willem kraal | 09.05.08
i agree with above, i also served in the miliary but im sick and tired of BIGMC bringing it up everytime he talkes.oh jezus maria is this guy boooooooring or not???
12. Geoffrey B Slater | 09.05.08
After watching both conventions and hearing the speeches of both nominees, it seems to me we have a very clear choice. However that choice is only clear if you know where you want the country to go. Both the Democrats and Republicans have promised to deliver on many important issues but in general none have delivered long term answers to issues like Education, Social Security, Medicare, Energy Independence to name a few. Terrorism as a global problem is a new one to add to the mix. These are exceptionally difficult issues that require more than talk. We need people who can lead and energize others to solve problems; problems that need the combined good will, ideas, and energy of all Americans. So I believe you have to choose the leader who has vision, determination and the integrity to stay on line with his own ideals while listening to the advice of those who have a different paradigm. Leaders must lead by example and cannot falter when a decision is critical. They must be able to weight the outcome and judge the best solution in emergencies without being bogged down by the need for consensus. Both candidates will require strong teams to back them up while in office and the selection process for that team is also critical.
From what I have seen and listened to, and although he is not charismatic, won’t fill up a stadium, and may not enjoy the limelight as much, I believe John McCain has, through his life experience become that man we need at this moment.
He will never let us down, he can’t, its just not in his character.
Geoffrey B Slater
13. John Patrick Smith | 09.05.08
John McCain was right to link both the Republican and Democrat parties to the corrupt morals of Washington politicians.
These same party politicians also share a bankruptcy of ideas for how to fix their criminal fiscal mismanagement.
For too long the U.S. Congress has financed its deficit spending with economic policies and legislation that promoted lenient credit and lax oversight to encourage U.S. consumer borrowing in order to produce economic expansion.
This economic house of cards has come tumbling down following the dot-com market bubble burst and sub-prime housing collapse.
As a result of this wealth meltdown, U.S. consumers can no longer finance their debts and Congress is desperate to find revenues to keep the U.S. out of bankruptcy.
It’s time to limit Congressional terms. Will either John McCain or Barack Obama support a constitutional amendment to limit Congressional terms to a combined total of not more than eighteen (18) years?
14. Dawn | 09.05.08
I was undecided until last night. The speech I watched John McCain give was not about himself, and that was what moved me most of all. It was about this country, it was about what our country has does for all of us, how special America is, and how to fight to keep her safe and bring her back into prosperity. There was no talk of moral equivalency, no apologies for being who we are, the same way other countries do not apologize for their own belief systems. In contrast, while Mr. Obama is a great talker, I don’t want talk. I want someone up there who has the substance to back up the ideals that make this country great. With Palin at his side, Mc Cain, to me, is by far the best choice for my children and for this country’s future.
15. Ron | 09.05.08
John McCain and Sarah Palin are what this country needs. They will truly balance each out. As for education in Alaska. Sarah inherited that from an inept Republican administration. Please enlighten us non-academia types as to what books she is trying to ban. Every Republican administration has promised to fix our education system since Reagan and it only gets worse and you expect Sarah to change things in two years. Why are our public hellholes that are called schools failing our children? Because of the pointy headed elite academia types up in Washington want total control of your thoughts and your children’s thoughts. I agree with John and Sarah in letting local people control THEIR local schools. Then and only then will I ever allow my precious children, who God our Creator gifted to me and my wife, grace the doorsteps of a public school. Until then we choose to home school even though I am still forced to pay property taxes to government indoctrination centers.
By the Mr. Ted, who probably voted for John Kerry, at least John McCain didn’t throw his medals away, or was it someone else’s. And at least John McCain didn’t have to lie about his service in Viet Nam to win his party’s nomination. Oh, for your information it is veteran not vetran.
16. Ron | 09.05.08
MacNaught P - we already whipped you twice and saved you twice. With your attitude I guess we need to whip you again; however, since the majority of Brits are nice people, unlike yourself, I’d much rather save them from you. I am sure you will be the first in line calling for the Yankees to come to your rescue when China, Iran or Russia expand into Europe though force.
17. Terri | 09.05.08
Fellow Democrats and Obama supporters, let us not get caught up in the heat of these stupid comments by people trying to create issues where there are none. The Republicans know they cannot win this election and will do anything to take us off our course and goal of assuring that Obama becomes the 44th President of the United States of America. So forget their smears and lies, which are not true. We need to go out there and campaign for our candidate. Convert those independents and undecided voters and get them on to Obama’s tickets. We don’t need to waste our time responding to this rubbish - our time should be spent on the campaign trail. A lot of bloggers and people making comments are just pretending to be Democrats or PUMA supporters or even Republicans who are just working to incite and create issues and friction. Obama has shown us how to handle these issues - with calm and dignity. Come On Dems, don’t get caught up in this BS. McCain and Palin are just another bump on the road.
YES WE CAN!
18. Barbara | 09.05.08
There was very little substance in his speech. No practical plan for the future that I could see — except for sending my tax money to parochial schools in the name of “school choice.” Claiming Dems tax and spend — every Dem president in living memory has left office with a budget surplus, and every Republican pres has left office with a deficit. I know how to recognize fiscal responsibility, and I now know how to vote.
19. Dave | 09.05.08
Let’s face facts. McCaine is a horrible choice and is even worse with a no experience money spender from Alaska as his VP. Obama is a joke and his VP choice is an ignorant wind bag. There really is no-one to vote for this November. No-one with any character anyway. I’m writing in Ron Paul.
20. jane | 09.05.08
Great comments Jade. I lived in Alaska for a year & you are right. The people there are very independent and want to be left alone to do things their way.
21. Tom | 09.05.08
It has been a long time since the GOP has given us weaker nominees than McCain/Palin. Dana Perino is much more qualified to be VP or President than Palin. It is interesting to see how the GOP talks about experience. McCain has no more “executive experience” than Obama. Since he is 30 years older, he does have more Senate experience. McCain barely has any formal education. Palin has little more. Obama has a very impressive educational background and some very good life experience. How much of this country resembles the demographics or mindset of Alaska? She has spent most of her life in a tiny town in Alaska, member of a town council, mayor, and a short time Governor of an extremely rural state. She lacks both the education and background for VP or President. Bottom line, if she were not a right wing Evangelical who opposed abortion, McCain would have been committed for choosing her. For a man of 72 trying to enter the White House, this shows some of the worst judgment in our nation’s history. She is not VP material. Economic reform??????????? McCain should have had a recording of GWB laying out the economic plan. He could have used either the 2000 or 2004 version. I would take Bush/Cheney any day over McCain/Palin. Until recently, I did not think the GOP could offer anything worse than Bush/Cheney. As McCain says.. if you live long enough, you may see anything happen.
22. bob | 09.05.08
McCain?Liked some of what he had to say sounded moderate and good but in reality his age continue to be the main issue.
The guy will be 76 at the end of 1st term and 80 at the end of second term.
If McCain goes Palin comes in and of what I saw so far its a no no no
23. Marko | 09.05.08
Military men that know what war really is…. try hard to avoid it. Its something that non-military citizens just cannot understand.
24. stephanie | 09.05.08
I pray daily that we can get back to the true roots of social conservativism in this country. Too me Obama represents this more than McCain and Palin. Social conservatisim is truly about taking care of the least among us and the Republican party only likes to take care of those with the most. This is not what Jesus would want us to do.
Further, Jesus is/was a community organizer. Community organizers do alot more than government politicians do for their local communities/states. I was offended by the republicans mocking community organizing…what do you think churches do everyday? The organize! Why? BC our politicians leave us short more times than not.
May god be with Barack Obama and have him represent the true principles of social conservativism. Not hate, divisiveness, etc as no change ever results from that. We all dislike abortion therefore lets make it reduced instead of abolished. We need to reach consensus to move forward. Or else we will stagnate and grow more divisive everyday. Its not what we need this time in our country.
25. Mark Szwacberg | 09.05.08
Unfortunately most of America, including the media pundits missed MCCain’s message of serving the country and not a political party. The left will spin his ideology as more of the same in attempt to downplay the stark contrast between MCCain’s selfless devotion to country and Obama’s “me first” entitlement society philosophy.When you look back at the legislation that bears this man’s name along with Dems such as Kenedy, Lieberman, Feingold, etc…even at great political cost, how can he be labeled “more of the same”.
26. Derek | 09.05.08
Ted… and why does Obama Bin Laden thinks he ‘deserves’ to be the President? It sure isn’t because he’s ever done anything of value.
MacNaught… I welcome you to go live in one of the countries that doesn’t like America. You would gladly take up arms against America huh? Did your countrymen not learn a lesson after attempting to do that twice?
27. Mitch | 09.05.08
It may be the lack of polish and blemishes of imperfection that reveal the truth about McCain. As everyone with scant perceptive skills is able to see it takes faith to conclude Obama is the next right thing for America. ALthough McCain’s reputation is “maverick” you have more certainty on what to expect for his pick than not. One test for me is whether or not being elected president completes a persons life, it answers their inner calling - it marks their arrival? Apply that test to Hillary, Obama, then apply it to McCain / Palin !
28. Thoren58 | 09.05.08
The personal Palin story is overshadowing a much more significant piece of news for evangelicals:
“We learned last week that John McCain really wanted to choose his very good friend, Joe Lieberman, for VP but caved into pressure from the religious right. McCain will save his Lieberman pick for the Supreme Court — sorry evangelicals but you’ll have no leverage on Maverick McCain by then. Your Vice President will have no power in the process and a Democratic majority will happily confirm pro-choice Lieberman to the Supreme Court!”
Please understand the debate about abortion is essentially over. It felt as though some of the conventioneers may have started to realize that during Lieberman’s address at the convention.
Check Mate!
29. Larrabe, B | 09.05.08
P. MacNaught. You sound like you’re still smarting over the fact that we’re no longer paying taxes to the Queen…
30. Wiley | 09.05.08
I see the paid Obama bloggers are up early this morning!
While you may love Obama and perhaps despise McCain, your side has yet to put together a compelling argument as to why anyone should consider voting for Obama as POTUS. Obama’s record compared to McCain’s is all fluff with no substance. Sorry if that comes across as mean but it’s just a fact. Hope and change is an empty promise if we’re to look at his political career as evidence.
If Obama supporters here can open your minds for just a moment (give it a try, it’s not too difficult), please take a look at a piece written by Matt Gonzalez last Spring. Gonzales is a prominent San Francisco politician. The article speaks volumes about Obamas record and can be found here:
http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/The_Obama_Craze_Count_Me_Out_5413.html
I will agree with the need for change wholeheartedly, but McCain is the only candidate in the running who has a record that shows he can get it done.
Enjoy the rest of your day!
31. Josh | 09.05.08
Make no mistake; we are in World War III. Therefore we need a military leader not a no-vote senator whose only previous note worthy job was that of a “community organizer”. So many left-wing extremist are pulling the chains on “OsoBAma”
What does the number of colleges and universities transferred to and from have to do with anything at all? I went to 4 different colleges in order to spend less on college. I received my Bachelor degree in 3.5 years with honors and a 4.0 GPA.
Palin is more qualified for prez or veep than Obama will ever be.
32. Josh | 09.05.08
The best way to reform the GOP is to elect Obama. Giving them another 4 years is not a call to reform LOL.
33. Bruce | 09.05.08
There is nothing moderate about the candidacy of McCain/Palin. On constitutional issues, he is in allowance with unconstitutional stances and acts by the CIA and Bush Attorneys General, based on the always-wartime footing against the perpetual terror the CIA has unleashed by training bin Laudin.
They are both for the selection of federal judges based on scripture. No one book of wisdom represents America. This is NOT a ‘Christian’ country, no matter how much shouting and cheering accompanied the Snopes trial.
Palin would vote with the Snopes jurors. Her point of view is about to be rammed down our throats, by the non-moderates. Amish farmers provided the winnning margin in Ohio in 2004.
Modern scholarship, and the unearthing of older,unmodified books of the New Testament, indicate that the currently in-use ‘bible’ is a sham, a modern re-write, based on Greek and Roman myths, not Jesus’s word, as per the book of Q. The real moderates must be protected from Taliban logic, the GOP making law based on all-too-challenged doctrine.
34. Paul Hauser | 09.05.08
In the future, minorities will play a MUCH larger role in our society. I read a week or so ago that WHITES will be in the minority in the United States by 2040. So we are heading towards a more pluralistic, racially, socially and financially integrated country.
The Republican party is at odds with the direction of the country, and you could see it by counting the minority representation at the Republican National Convention. Basically the RNC was a “Whites Only” convention, very much aimed at maintaining the status quo.
As we move towards this integration, it is inevitable, as sure as the tides will rise and the sun sets in the west, that an individual from a minority will eventually be elected President of the United States.
In my view that is the critical issue in this election, because the entire society will move 50 years into the future with the election of Obama. If McCain is elected, we stay right were we are.
The Republicans will have any listener believe that it is they who keep us safe in our beds at night; that it is the stalwart efforts of President Stupid and his cronies that have prevented another attack on American Soil.
The truth is though, that it is the diversity that actually keeps us safe.
35. rural american | 09.05.08
McCain and Palin are the only people in America who can effectively combat the worst person in politics today…Harry Reid. Reid has demonstrated a willingness engage in widespread sedition irregardless of the damage to our country. Like Bush, hate Bush, it’s our choice as American’s, but when we are attacked, we are bound to stand together — Reid doesn’t get it. He’s a traitor and in another time, would be rightfully brought up on treason charges.
As an Independent, I was considering a hunting trip on Nov.4th — not sure if I who I could vote for. Sarah Palin has changed that. I will vote McCain/Palin. SHE is the change we so desperately need in America.
The fear she has put into the Democrats makes me feel good inside. But it’s the fear she puts into good ol’ boy Republicans that is absolutely priceless.
One can only hope that hype and partisan rancor die quick deaths upon the election of McCain and Palin. I think they have a chance. Even in the face of an avalanche of spin articles like the one above.
36. awenshok’08 | 09.05.08
How refreshing it was to listen to Senator ‘Surge’ McCain promising to reform everything. And, given his success with the McCain-Feingold campaign ‘reform’ legislation that has left thousands of lobbyists unemployed and national party headquarters with few choices but to hold conventions in empty fields for lack of money, we have nothing to fear — except more reform legislation.
How disgustingly unbelievable.
After a all his years in the Senate where ethical impotence reigns, John McCain and the other professional politicians show only contempt for voter-sheep. Reform nothing for your entire Congressional career, promise much and you, too, can be President.
Where’s the beef, John? Where’s the reform from your lengthy Senate service? The Boeing corruption is ONE, just ONE!
How ’bout this? For the next three elections no one casts a vote for ANY incumbent. Reelect noone. Forget term limits, you’ll never see the law even taken up. What’s our recourse — don’t reelect ANYONE.
Good luck, America. I do so miss my country.
38. Ben | 09.05.08
You got to be kidding me McBush!!! Get out of the way IDIOT, and let we show you what change means.
OBAMA’08
39. Huey | 09.05.08
Appeals to moderates? You’ve got to be kidding! While at one time true, McCain has been pandering to the right wingers increasingly throughout the campaign, as recently evidenced by his selection of Palin as running mate. This, combined with hollow talk of reform with absolutely no specifics, is extremely concerning to this moderate Independent. After watching both conventions, I find myself more and more in Obama’s camp.
40. Timo | 09.05.08
While I thought John McCain tried to ooze moderate appeasement, his running mate, the Inflatable Party Doll and former beauty pageant winner, exudes the “sameness” that drove me from the Republican ranks years ago: the same arrogance, cynicism, ignorance and contempt for others with views other than their own. I hope she can make some time for her special needs son and her very special needs daughter while brow-beating the nation into her view of sameness.
41. Sonia Kermaz | 09.05.08
John McCain’s “war hero” chest thumping toughness epitomizes the problem of experience without reflection. He’s like an alcoholic in a liquor store, a man who solves every problem the same way–more heroic chest thumping in his case. But true war heros don’t wave their medals in our faces as proof of manhood and ability. War is not theatre for the sober-minded, it’s a painful, humbling experience.
McCain is the worst kind of soldier and leader, a blind and boastful rooster who elevates his own suffering above the human carnage of war.
42. Sonia Kermaz | 09.05.08
John McCain’s “war hero” chest thumping toughness epitomizes the problem of experience without reflection. He’s like an alcoholic in a liquor store, a man who solves every problem the same way–more heroic chest thumping in his case. But true war heros don’t wave their medals in our faces as proof of manhood and ability. War is not theatre for the sober-minded, it’s a painful, humbling experience.
McCain is the worst kind of soldier and leader, a blind and boastful rooster who elevates his own suffering above the human carnage of war.
43. lindsey | 09.05.08
In comment to posting by: MacNaught P. | 09.05.08:
You state that you would take up arms against America, this goes back to why we, Americans, took up arms against the Brits and kicked your stuff back in the 1776 era. lets see, Boston Tea Party, Revolutionary War, do these ring a bell by chance?
Bring it on…………
McCain does represent what a veteren means to America, he has earned it, does not deserve it and does not expect it. As he stated, he was saved by the grace, love of fellow warrior & compassion of his fellow soldiers. He states that he is of America not himself where so many vets are stating that America owes them. Yes, America owes EACH AND EVERY vet a heros welcome, the best medical care available and depending on severity of injuries, some kind of living assistance.
Now to the election:
We all have differing views on the present state of economies, where ever we may be in the world. I for one and my wife are voting McCain/Palin this time. We have not always done so in the past, we vote what is right for America, party agnostic.
Vote your conscious.
lt
44. S Kelley | 09.05.08
MacNaught P,
You are right that McCain has a military bent, but I think you discredit the mans integrity and the fact that having experienced war he isn’t exactly keen on jumping into one. I do however think if he must he would do so with the full expectation of fighting to win.
Its a good thing many calmer heads prevail across the pond in the UK as compared to your own rash and shallow comments. You call McCain militaristic and in the same paragraph suggest you would take up arms against another sovereign nation. Do you actually read what you write? The US the greatest threat to the plants ecology? Hello? China… The country thats now the biggest polluter on the planet and growing. Besides the point that the US essentially invented the concept of ecological conservation in its modern form. Henry David Thoreau calling, something about naturalists and civil disobedience, some rot about the value of nature. Read the book sometime.
You need to take a long break from the socialist, big brother Disney land you call home and try to get some fresh air. You have clearly lost your sense of perspective.
45. Mike E | 09.05.08
It is refreshing to hear a politician speak openly and honestly about what he believes and proposes to do, even if it isn’t popular, politically correct, and makes people uncomfortable. Someone who is capable of leading, who has good judgment, and has proven to be able to make decisions is a better choice than someone who is willing to tell people what he thinks they want to hear and has no conscience. Based upon reporting I have seen/heard, and research I have done, there is now a clear choice. My support is for McCain/Palin. They may not be perfect, but at least they are honest, and have decent character values. Also, thinking Americans are seeing through the agenda of the so-called ‘mainstream media’ and are not willing to be deceived. I am thankful for the freedoms we still have.
46. Samantha | 09.05.08
As a woman, I believe the current American media must be dissassembled and shelved. Journalists need to be sifted through and retired if they are part of this never-ending partisan smear machine that defines the American media today.
When I look back at Jerimiah Wright and Obama, Teddy Kennedy and the creek, Edwards and his girlfriend cheating for a year while the media held their powder, Bill Clinton and the media’s role in destroying the women he molested, and the bitterly partisan, personal attacks against Sarah Palin and her daughter, and the destruction of Hillary, I understand why I’m a PUMA and that it is the right decision. I also understand Republican’s dissappointment in the media and why Fox News is so successfull.
Women need to cancel subscriptions, write advertisers and editors, boycott products and vote against partisan journalism when the opportunity arises.
There is no women’s movement since radical lesbians and partisans hijacked NOW. Women need to begin again, only target the real enemy. A bitterly partisan media that is trying to hijack American politics.
47. rokdevil | 09.05.08
I think that the RNC’s treatment of Ron Paul at the convention shows just how fragile McCain’s ego is and how petty the party machinery has become. Unfortunately, there’s very little real difference between McCain and Obama. Might as well call the parties “Republicrat” and be done with it. I think the most reassuring thing to remember is that at one point in history the entire world believed the earth was flat.
48. John | 09.05.08
Republicans are dangerous to America. Ideology is more important to them then reality and science .That’s why they will not believe in global warming .Republicans believe that lower taxes will leave more people with more money making better choices. It could be true among smart investors(those make mistakes too),but society as a whole is going to spend it on bigger cars (higher consumption of gas higher prices will soon follow) There fore government is needed to make smart investments for people(public transport, highway, bridges education etc .Regular people are going to spend more money on products made largely abroad (big screen TVs).Isn’t it what happened during Bush term( no real investment only simple attempts to increase consumption). Republicans also cut taxes for investors what was supposed to crate jobs.(it was right with republican ideology) but it crated over investment in real estate and caused speculation trend in housing , oil, wheat, gold etc (causing higher prices for most products)after dramatic yearly housing price increases there is total collapse and job losses in housing market. We are in the crossroads. It is time to chose. Government does not have to be bad like republicans believe so deeply. Lets look at other developed countries where for 30-40% paid on average in taxes citizens get decent healthcare (without danger of bankruptcy if something bad happens) decent education including higher education. Americans pay the same without those benefit in exchange getting military posturing now and then .Compare situation of laid of worker in Sweden and in US. Its bad Republican ideology having real devastating results. Free market is good between comparable countries, it can not work between countries where labor is so much cheaper. More companies will move to cheap labor heavens while republicans will be praising free market when t shirt at Wal-Mart is 5$ cheaper forgetting that textile industry had left US for good.
49. Kenga Sankei | 09.05.08
I think objectively speaking McCain’s speech lacked a clear focus of his exact specific policies on key issues such as Education, health care and the economy.
His emphasis on change and reforms are uncharacteristically deliberate to try and create a different opinion on George Bushes track record, which has to a larger extent messed the economy and tainted the image of the U.S.A abroad.
Change is a fact of life, the fact that the republicans have been part of the system for eight years and the same folks think its time for change then it is a case of too little eight years late!
50. James R. Nelson | 09.05.08
So does our Nation wish to become a pure welfare state, with entitlements for those who refuse to carry their share of responsibility? Does our Nation wish to be ruled by another Chamberlain? Does our Nation wish to be subjected to heavy blankets of massive, additional taxation? Does our Nation wish to be subjected to class warfare? Does our Nation wish to place its trust in a flamboyant, non-experienced, ego-tripping, elitist? If so, then your arrogant, empty suit will dash your present and ruin the future of your children.
51. Tom | 09.05.08
Palin made a meaningless speech to all of her own supporters. Anyone would have looked good. She didn’t write a word of that speech. She will turn out to be the worst VP pick when she falls apart in the debates and her past catches up to her. She has no substance and has no qualifications to take over the Presidency. She has vetoed teaching sex education because she stongly believes in abstinence until marriage and not in teaching responsible sex to those that choose to have sex. Now her 17 year old is pregnant…..karma is a *****!!
52. Jesse | 09.05.08
I have seen many ridiculous comments in these comment sections, but the one from “MacNaught P” is one of the most absurd. He wrote, “The person who wrote that America is the biggest terrorist organisation on the planet and poses the greatest threat to the ecological survival of this planet.”
This person obviously does not know what is going on around the world, outside of Western Europe and America. America is not perfect, but we held to the highest standards and constantly condemned for any imperfections. People should instead go after and try to fix the problems in the many countries around the world that are polluting and breeding terrorists on a much larger scale.
53. Samantha | 09.05.08
“I am british but would gladly take up arms against America…”
by MacNaught P.
You and whose army? The USA is the only reason you aren’t posting in German….
54. Independent | 09.05.08
Mr McCain says he wants to fight for the average guy. Yet, the average guy does not want what he wants. He talks about reforming the Republican party, yet his VP pick represents exactly what needs to be reformed.
If he wants this Independent’s vote, the party has to be reformed first. Politicians are very good at making promises. However, they rarely perform on those promises.
McCain says he is the best qualifiefd to lead, yet he is the only Viet Nam veteran I can document who collaborated with the enemy. He was not promoted to Admiral in the Navy as was his father and grandfather. A question is why did the Navy refuse to trust him with that level of command? Could it be his betrayal of country?
55. C. Casperson | 09.05.08
People don’t listen. McCain is very different from Bush. McCain doesn’t want to spend money in terrorist embracing countries. Where Bush handled the Iraq situation in a very messy way, it was McCain who fixed it and helped preserve freedom . McCain gives clear ideas for his economic plans on his web site. Bush was very disappointing to me for many reasons.
Bush sadly has been very indifferent to things such as hurricane Katrina, where as McCain went down to Mississippi on Sunday of this week during the initial hurricane Gustav, and this is what he is like. He really cares. I didn’t see Obama down there. Of course, one could say that McCain did it to impress, but if one looks at the last decades of his life, one cannot help but see that both and his wife are very compassionate individuals who always give their best to every situation. ( and read about Cindy McCain’s charity work not to mention they adopted a baby from Bangladesh in the early 90s) Bush has been 100% indifferent to environmental issues, where McCain has put 3.5 billion acres of wilderness into protection. Teddy Roosevelt,the most famous environmentalist president is McCain’s ideal. McCain has fought to preserve the Alaska wilderness and the Arctic among many places.
At the same time, McCain sees the need to be energy independent from terrorist countries. Go to his web site and read it all. Maybe you won’t agree with every thing, but the integrity and goodness is so evident. If one listens, one hears something so real and so good and so true in McCain and it is really refreshing these days. He will be a president that makes us grateful.
56. C. Casperson | 09.05.08
I agree with Jonathan , the second posted comment here.
If people are really listening, they will hear. McCain actually has proven integrity throughout his career. This is very refreshing.
58. George Washington | 09.05.08
to MacNaughtP.
We hold the highest regard for the British people. Nevertheless, it appears quite doubtful that you are one of them, even to the point of your not capitalizing the “b” {British) in your threatening note and your egregious grammatical errors. However, if you don’t understand America, plan to “take up arms against America,” and wish to become the “killer” that you despise, please allow us to remind you of the outcome of your aggression back in 1776.
59. Samuel | 09.05.08
MacNaught P.
Those are some pretty strong word from you? You would gladly take up arm against the USA??? England’s biggest and most important friend on the world stage? Then who would you call for help when another subway is bombed by your locals…or perhaps an invasion? The French??? Good Luck with that. You have little if any clue of how much the United states has help people all over the world..including your own country. Plus not to be rude but, YOUR opinion doesn’t matter…YOUR NOT AN AMERICAN & YOU CANT VOTE. One more thing, you are pretty brave on a forum, but if you are in the US (using our resources, education systems, ect) you are a guest, but that doesn’t protect you from a beat down from any American who finds you speaking like that in public. In other words we’ll kick your ***. Now shut up and drink your prissy tea, it came out of Boston harbor BTW.
60. Mr.Truth | 09.05.08
I can say I like McCain a little more behind last night’s speech but he is not change. The Republicans have had power for 8 years and have done nothing but call you whiners and tell you things aren’t that bad. McCain’s boasted of voting with Bush 90% of the time. That doesn’t sound like change to me. They have not been in Washington pushing for any new initiatives and now they’re going to?? Typical politics for sure and as for Palin; how is she being attacked?? Mentioning her 17 year old being pregnant is not an attack. It sounds like “Family Values” aren’t being preached at home and that’s what happens in politics. Your business gets aired.she’s third of the best available behind Romney and Huck since “executive experience” is now the standard. As I, recall George Bush has some “executive experience” and we’ve seen what a fine job he’s been doing. His pressing to have Dubai manage our ports is evidence of his leadership. Dubai is the same country that Al-Qaeda banks with. That’s another example of Republican Patriotism.. Why do you people wish suffering upon yourself and neighbor…you need to stop…
62. J. WIlliams | 09.05.08
“I am british but would gladly take up arms against America…”
That worked out really nicely the last time, didn’t it?
63. JohnQPublic | 09.05.08
God bless John McCain and God bless Sarah Palin.
The contasts between them and the Obama - Biden ticket are startling.
How can people support a man who goes overseas, ignores our troops and gives speeches designed to impress our critics in Europe in hopes that it will make him look important? A man who spends his time writing memoirs and voting “present” and running for office.
And how can people ignore a man like John McCain who has spent his life trying to serve his country a man who puts country first and self second? And he has the scars to prove it.
64. Creamsykle | 09.05.08
This is what will be tought in our public schools if McCain/ Palin win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPYuo12hY4
65. Honey Rogers | 09.05.08
Both John and Sarah are nuts! Vote for intelligence, new ideas, Vote for Obama. There isn’t a conservative choice.
66. RABO | 09.05.08
Agents of change? After the last 8 years, what sentient being could even remotely believe that? Palin is nothing more than an extremist with a pretty face. A Pat Buchannan with breasts.
This is going to be a short honeymoon.
67. JeKale | 09.05.08
I watched the Republican convention, waiting for an apology to the American people from the Republican leadership (McCain included) for the
way the have run this country into the ground for the past eight years. I was disappointed for not getting any. I was hoping that McCain would ask for forgiveness for having helped Bush 90% of the time get the country into this hole. None of that happened. Instead, McCain removed any of the accountability from himself, placed it on a yet-to-be-named “we”, and finished covering his tracks with attacks against the other side. No details on his economic plan, nothing on health care.
Bush was voted into office for 4 years and cleaned America’s budget surplus.
People loved it and voted for him for another 4 years. He used the Chinese credit card to put the country in the red.
Since he cannot go for a third term, some people want to vote for his 90% identical twin who has put on a cosmetic facade of change. If we cannot see the fraud then this time we are doomed.
68. schwave | 09.05.08
All I hear from the republican party is war,terror and how afraid everyone should be. Well I have had enough!It is easy for mcCain to say he is a reformist with how badly this party has bungled it up for last eight long years. their is a lot to fix and he has been their long enough to know that he is part of the problem!Having a VP that believes in creationism is not the change this party needs.
69. Jeff | 09.05.08
I did like his speech, but his ideas seem to fit into three categories:
A) the same ideas repackaged as “Change”
or
B) ideas presented by Barack Obama that go against everything he has said and done up until this election.
C) ideas stemming from his “Maverick” past.
While C is appealing, I don’t see the Maverrick anymore. Judging his actions , He doesn’t appear to be able to even stand up to the typical partisan BS of his own party. He maybe said he will, but the entire convention was partisan attacks and it is HIS convention!
70. Vijay Nair | 09.05.08
McCain wants “Change”. He sounded like he was bent on winning the claim for the word Change. That’s still a “10 percent” change at best. I’m looking for a whole lot more. I will take my chances with Obama.
71. Ed Daniel | 09.05.08
I am an amputee, a veteran of WWII, a war we had to fight. Unlike Mr. McCain, I did not kill civilians by dropping bombs on them. They might have felt justified in killing him instead of saving him when he was finally shot down. I regard McCain’s actions in Vietnam as war crimes. It is notable that the Republican party has become the party of war crimes, invading Iraq on the basis of lies, killing over 150,000 civilians in the process, destroying its infrastructure and now seeking to grab its oil. McCain wants to bomb Iran, on the basis of disproven claims that it is building an nuclear bomb.
A vote for McCain is a vote for unbridled war and aggression. A vote for McCain is a vote for further enriching the rich and leaving the poor with less and less.
72. michael prosser | 09.05.08
Sarah Palin, right wing conservataive, member of the NRA, out doors woman wife, mother of five children, a book banner in the local library, in a state where the level of education is quite low, suggests that she has more executive experience as mayor of her small 10,000 person and two years as Governor of Alaska, than both Senators Obama and Biden. In this case, if these two senators don’t have executive experience, clearly neither does Senator McCain. If I understand it, with no passport until one or two years ago, no foreign experiene beyond a possible vacation, and with Alaska squeezed by Russia and Canada, this shows that she has international experience. As many commentators have said, the bar for running for the vice president of the US, and thus being a heart beat away for aging Senator McCain, should be far higher than being a mom, a mother, a mayor of a very small town, and governor for two years of Alaska. She is America’s new pop celebrity, something she sneered about in terms of Senator Obama, being simply a celebrity because Senator McCain needed a dazzling effort and annointed a poorly equipped candidate for this heart beat away from the presidency. His effort to give his lackluster campaign and increasingly mean spirited attacks on Senator Obama for Senator McCain’s chance to become President is bold but highly risky when we consider the importance of broad national experience. How can he talk about her experience with anything but a “wink wink” and castigate Senator Obama’s lack of experience. The “straight talk express” seems to have run out of steam in picking such a popular but unprepared vice presidential running mate. Michael Prosser
73. lpdrjk | 09.05.08
McCain’s plan to permanently extending the tax cuts would reduce tax revenue by $1 trillion over four years. If Mr. McCain eliminated every earmark (including money for the gas pipeline that Ms. Palin wants to build in Alaska), the savings would total about $18 billion a year. He hasn’t offered any idea of where he’ll get the rest of the money.
This eviscerates any idiot who froths at the mouth about “tax and spend” liberals or that McCain has any economic substance. Unless they are willing to admit that they are NOT conservatives. Which I doubt since it allows them to feel smug about their ludicrous delusions.
74. Phillip | 09.05.08
Some people use the Freedom of Speech to say anything they want because the right was given to them. I just wish there was a filter, because the valid arguments are so far and few between the ones that just waste my time. Too many people speak off emotion and repeat headlines from the mass media. Please understand people, the mass media has an agenda and at least ask the question “if you are receiving the full information?”. Then ask, “if it is presented in a bias manner?”. The third and final question to ask is “how would I have done things differently?”. No matter which side of table you sit, these are good practices to follow. Thank you Jade. MacNaught, you can stay in Britain. Just try noy to spit in our face if the U.S. saves your country again. I think the opportunity for true POSITIVE change lies more with McCain then Obama. He has set himself aside from both sides and truly aligned himself with the middle. I would much rather test his argument of character, then the socialist idealism of Obama.
75. Missy | 09.05.08
They can’t both claim the maverick label. I think one of them needs to be Iceman
76. Missy | 09.05.08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgVUxmjf0G8&feature=PlayList&p=869F1FBA218EB2B2&index=1
A very good video about the candidates!
77. greg | 09.05.08
If I was no one can hold a candle to McCain he’s so old his body turned to wax years ago.
What I heard this weekend echoed the last 8 years. Take no responsibility for your actions.
ignore the realities around you. Yet keep digging. How can change be represented when one
can not even recognize a problem. Meanwhile in the back room and on the floor of the convention who got even bigger applause than their future president….. Karl Rove ………. Tom Delay……… and Ralph Reed.
There is change for ya.
78. greg | 09.05.08
If I was no one can hold a candle to McCain he’s so old his body turned to wax years ago.
What I heard this weekend echoed the last 8 years. Take no responsibility for your actions.
ignore the realities around you. Yet keep digging. How can change be represented when one
can not even recognize a problem. Meanwhile in the back room and on the floor of the convention who got even bigger applause than their future president….. Karl Rove ………. Tom Delay……… and Ralph Reed.
There is change for ya.
79. Vinnie | 09.05.08
I lost my Brother in the 911 attacks. How dare these republicans show that painful footage on national TV for their political gains! They should DROP DEAD!!!
80. Gabe | 09.05.08
LOL He’s going to reform the GOP? Then he picks Palin an ultra conservative right wing baffoon? ***? he is more of the same and the US gets what she deserves should we pick this losing team. At least Obama wants to end this stupid war so we can actually start to fix our economy. The choice is crystal clear; more of the same or at least a chance for a change in the right direction…IMO.
81. Kappa | 09.05.08
The biggest issue with the McCain supporters is these are the same people who presented George W. as a Fighter Pilot, War Hero, Great Decison Maker and a person that would bring the country together. Good Luck on overcoming the Bush Legacy.
Kappa
82. John Smith | 09.05.08
There can be no doubt in anyone’s minds McCain and Palin are mavericks who will endeavor to expose and eliminate corruption, reduce run away spending by Congress and bring some order to the chaotic, squabbling, self-serving politicans in Congress.
As to MacNaught’s comment [McCain] is a raving militarist who would plunge the world into WWIII to satisfy ambition and so on….whew!
Should Iraq becomes a success story, a functioning democracy at peace with its neighbors, good treatment for it’s citizens which in time transforms this troubled area of the world for the better I hope you will be singing a different tune.
I have to wonder how you feel about Russia’s latest military action(s).
83. Mom in Virginia | 09.05.08
Now I understand that Palin will NOT be available for press conferences or media interviews. (With the probable exception of softball takes like on Ellen, Fox News, and the View)
If she’s not ready to talk to the press, she’s not ready to be president.
If she’s not ready to stand in front of a town hall, she’s not ready to be president.
84. Steve | 09.05.08
Mccain is a true American, who has proved himself. The only blaring ambitious egotist is Obama! He is a scary man.
MACNAUGHT P. Kiss my American, red white and blue butt!!
85. Tillies Paine | 09.05.08
People just don’t get it…my life changed as never before when the Dems took both houses. Reed and Pelosi are both of the ’self serving good ‘ol boys club’! Raising taxes and immasculating the citizens is what they do. Now give them the white house and we will suffer as we have never seen…we will see tax increases and government control that rivals even France! I don’t really care who is the president just don’t give anyone party all three houses! It has never been nor will ever be a smart move for us free citizens!
86. Ron Scheurer | 09.05.08
On politics in particular, and competition in general:
Political Competition (all competition) is that state of affairs whereby one person or group spends most of their time trying to bolster their own image at the competitor’s expense, and vice-versa; instead of cooperating to make themselves better people, and the world a better and more peaceful place.
87. Steve | 09.05.08
McCain is a proven leader and decent man.
MacNaught P. Kiss my red white and blue butt!
88. toshtogo | 09.05.08
“So What If Sarah Palin Used a Speechwriter?”
“So What If Sarah Palin wants Alaska to secede from the union?”
“So What If Sarah Palin tried to fire her sisters’ ex husband?”
“So What If Sarah Palin campaigned for the bridge to nowhere, then said she didn’t?”
“So What If Sarah Palins’ state population is less than most counties?”
“So What If Sarah Palin could be a heartbeat away from being the president of the United States of America?”
…..none of that matters, ’cause she’s gonna get votes… and that is what is most important to John McCain…not who will be in charge if…
89. Lucas | 09.05.08
“The biggest terrorist organisation on the planet?” Have you ever read a history book or do you not know the history of your own nation? Lets pick a continent or country in the last few hundred years where Britain has imposed laws, murdered hundreds of thousands, exploited the people and raped the enviroment. I’ll just list a few for you since you obviously don’t know anything you’re talking about. Austrailia, Africa, India, America, British Isles, Middle East, South America, West Indies, China. All at one point or another, British territory, and they weren’t nice about it. The US’s “terrorist actions” will never stand in the shadow of what your sad little island nation is guilty ofGet a clue, or at least an education before you start posting here.
You say all these things about McCain but you don’t support any of your points. Why should anyone care to listen what you have to say? Wait, we don’t, so shut up.
90. Lucas | 09.05.08
“The biggest terrorist organisation on the planet?” Have you ever read a history book or do you not know the history of your own nation? Lets pick a continent or country in the last few hundred years where Britain has imposed laws, murdered hundreds of thousands, exploited the people and raped the enviroment. I’ll just list a few for you since you obviously don’t know anything you’re talking about. Austrailia, Africa, India, America, British Isles, Middle East, South America, West Indies, China. All at one point or another, British territory, and they weren’t nice about it. The US’s “terrorist actions” will never stand in the shadow of what your sad little island nation is guilty of. Get a clue, or at least an education before you start posting here.
You say all these things about McCain but you don’t support any of your points. Why should anyone care to listen what you have to say? Wait, we don’t, so shut up.
91. Gary Williams | 09.05.08
All I hear is the same economic policy, the same one that has been a total failure for 8 years. How does this help the country out of the economic morass that we are currently in, as the stock market showed so readily with its’ over 300 point loss already this week? This country is in a mess economically, it isn’t just Washington, it is the entire country. Where are the details addressing this?
92. Mike L | 09.05.08
So no one sees an issue with an argument that boils down to: Let’s forget the fact that our party got us into this mess over the last 8 years. Elect us so we can fix Washington….Where’s the accountability?
There was little to no talk about how the Republicans are going to fix our economy. There was no mention of the sitting president’s name in the convention hall that was primarily responsible for getting him elected, chiefly because they are embarrassed, and we are supposed to choose another “leader” from this party?
McCain might have electrified the GOP base with the pick of Palin, but that pick will prove to be the misstep that ended McCain’s chances for president. The GOP base will not win the election for McCain, Like it or not, they were already voting for McCain. The independents/moderates who are still undecided are the group that McCain was tasked with swaying, and being one of those folks, I heard nothing at the RNC that makes me feel like the Republican ticket will fix the economy, bring change to Washington. All I see is an ultra-right-winger as VP, clearly unqualified to be president should the need arise, who wants to control what a woman does with her body.
93. Mel | 09.05.08
McCain is the non-dairy creamer of change: he can pretend to take the same role as his competition, but nobody’s fooled. He’s had almost three decades in the Senate to reform things, and yet he’s followed Bush Jr’s policies pretty much lockstep.
Also, I suggest that every time McCain mentions being a POW, someone mails a Purple Heart bandaid to his campaign. Because we know the Republicans love a war hero.
94. Isanova | 09.05.08
As an alaskan, I have to take exception to your statements jade. Alaska is very different. Many kids don’t go to colleges or graduate high school because, frankly, they live in villages where life is entirely different. Rural alaska is the worst education spot in the world second to the reservations, and it has nothing to do with how the governor is running things and everything to do with geo-economics. True she hasn’t worked on education very much, but she did increase funding a bit. She cut programs yes, but thats because she wants the state to be fisically responsible. She didn’t go after the oil companies for money, but because the tax law that had been passed was passed on bribes. She also has been going after those lawmakers who took said bribes, with great sucess. She has done a lot of good work, and even though I do not agree with her on most subjects… I respect her. Not many politicians I can say that about.
Still dont know who I am voting for though~
95. Rich | 09.05.08
MacNaught: Your comments are laughable. A Brit accusing the US of terrorism and ecological irresponsibility? I guess you slept through the English colonialism lectures in school. An outright joke - you embarrass your entire nation with your comments.
96. Are you Serious? | 09.05.08
Lucas, well said. I had the thought to post a retort to MacNaught P., but you said it much better than I would have. MacNaught P., if you want your opinion to be considered seriously, try acting like you *aren’t* a lunatic.
97. Snerdguy | 09.05.08
McCain said “fight” twenty-five times in his speech. That is very telling of what our country will be doing if he is elected. He will start fights and join fights with other countries when ever he loses his very short temper. His idea of ruling is by using an iron fist instead of taking preventative measures and using diplomacy. It is clear that, if John McCain becomes president of the United States, thousands more American soldiers will die needlessly. The war with Iraq will evolve into a war in Afghanistan and than maybe a war with Iran. Who knows, he might start a conflict with Russia. All because he intends to fight, fight, fight, fight, fight…..
The thought of McCain running the country should strike terror into anyone young enough to be drafted during the next four years because an all volunteer army certainly won’t be able to fulfill his agenda.
98. John | 09.05.08
It appears as though the propaganda machine has infected every comment thread online that relates to the politicians talks. I don’t understand how anyone can watch these talks and really get a feel for what they’re going to do. All they do is say everything that everyone wants to hear. But this is not reality. McCain can not cut all taxes without totally messing up some facet of society, probably the middle class. Frankly, if people don’t like to pay taxes, it means they don’t care about people who need assistance. Selfish.
This entire process has left me completely disillusioned. It has become quite clear that people are going to vote for the person they find appealing and charismatic. You are never going to eat apple pie with these people. Vote for the person that does seem stand-offish and does speak much more intelligently than the average bloke. I trust that person to make the decision to trigger a bomb and destroy thousands of innocent babies, not the person that seems like my neighbor.
100. indi | 09.05.08
I noticed that most of the McCain supporters said how good McCain is and most of the Obama supporters said how bad McCain is. A lot of the Obama supporters are not real Obama supporters. They are Bush haters. Obama is a honorable man. Do him a favor will you. Sell him hard, with what he is and what he believes. Otherwise, you don’t deserve him.
101. indi | 09.05.08
Are you sick of hearing the POW stories? What are you? They suffered to keep you and your family safe. The liberal bunch said they support the troop, by cutting the fund, advocate defeat and trash the POWs?
102. Michael | 09.05.08
Ghouliani, Palin, and Romney were all but spitting blood in their denunciation of all people that don’t hold their narrow world view, but McCain is going to end the “partisan rancor” in Washington?
So he’s a uniter, not a divider!
Where have we heard this before?
103. jay | 09.05.08
Isanova,
Alaska always whines that they are big and rural and therefore the difference explains any shortcoming in education. However, with over half the population living in or near Anchorage, Alaska is actually more urbanized than a lot of other states. I love Alaska…but despite getting a healthy share of federal source revenues (including from oil on federal land) to prop up the state and local governments like nowhere else, and the highest per capita amount from the federal treasury, there is such great resentment for the federal government. Gov. Palin is all too typical of the politicians of the state that expect huge infusions of federal cash but won’t make hard choices to tax within their own state boundary when the need arises.
104. M. Tobias | 09.05.08
The issue is that Palin has taken so much money from DC up to Alaska that it makes ‘fiscal reform’ from the ticket a source of ridicule.
She had hired a Jack “I’m off to jail for 4 years” Abramoff protege to do the fund porking.
She ran a 527 soft money fund for Ted “I’m indicted for corruption” Stevens.
How can we back up the rhetoric with facts?
105. Maddie | 09.05.08
I am a white middle class Christian female, and it is a fact that the white population is quickly moving to minority status in this country, and right wing conservatives are only a portion of that group. This base is not big enough to win the election for John McCain. It may have carried elections in the past, but those days are gone. McCain seems to completely ignore all other ethnic groups. This will be a major factor in his downfall. And what ethnic group would be inclined to vote for a Republican when they see the endless racial slurs and vicious attacks on Barack Obama coming from conservative radio and television programs, and here in the comment sections on the internet? These Republicans make it clear that if your skin is not white, you are inferior and a pox on society. It’s a shame.
106. lori | 09.05.08
I just wanted to remind all Americans that do not fall for the GOP propaganda again. This party is a party of hate,war, and intolerance. Enough dictatorial regimes with torture,violating human rights, waging illegal wars. McCains change is a plain lie. What change? 100 years of ongoing war? Bush’s tax cut? And A stagnant economy? Senator McCain is a warlike who will make the world a frieball and will bring more devistation to humanity. I urge all American to read this article on consortiumnews.com: How Repulicans win by Robert Parry. To read a brief history of this party. With love to all Americans who can make a differnce this time to save America and the world from these war hawks necons.
107. mike | 09.05.08
My issue with Obama is just the same as JFK - a man of lofty ideals who, the minute he had to stand on his own, was taken behind the woodshed by Kruschev (sic), admitted so to other European leaders on the way home, got us into Vietnam, almost started WWIII because he was seen as weak by Russia, embarassed the US with Bay of Pigs…..and he was a genuine war-hero from a political background!
Can you imagine what the world would do to Obama…it would be pathetic.
108. Lori | 09.05.08
Plain and simple: do not fall for The GOP propaganda. To know a brief history of this party, read this article: How Repulicans win by Rober Parry on consortiumnews.com
109. Rodney | 09.05.08
Republicans had an opportunity to nominate war hero McCain back in 2000, but instead chose Bush. Unfortunately, McCain has been the one to change his views to get the support of the special interests (evangelical, big money) to get his nomination this time. It is clear that McCain doesn’t have the back bone to stand up to the evangelicals and corruption in his party.
110. working dad | 09.05.08
Hey, did you hear this joke?
Why did the sun never set on the British Empire?
Because God didn’t trust them!
So, please look closer to home before criticizing others.
John McCain has gained many right wingers with Palin but has probably lost more independents. Good luck buddy, but better luck in 2012.
111. Tab L. Uno from Utah | 09.05.08
“Fight, fight, fight, fight.” Do we want a “fighting” President? Will President McCain continue to fight Iraq, begin a fight with Russia, Iran, North Korea, and the Middle East? Will he fight Congress? Do we want a combative President? President Bush has already demonstrated what fighting will accomplish around the world. He has alienated almost every country against America. As our Country becomes more and more diverse, fighting seems have become an aging sign of the pre-Vietnam era. Today with globalization and global climate change, with emerging super-powers, fighting doesn’t seem to be the way of the future except to antagonize, threaten, bully, and create more tension and fear than security and peace. Do we want more of the same?
112. Lincoln Republican | 09.05.08
Forget the rhetoric and look at the actions. Mr. McCain has been taking hard to the right for a while. So much for the “Maverick”. The GOP is in bad shape. The GOP rank and file must reject the coprolithic mentality of Limbaugh, Hannity, Morris, Bush, Cheney, &tc., or it will ever be able to find solutions to current problems. That’s why this registered Republican is crossing over and voting for change this year.
113. fredw | 09.05.08
When you lose your job, your tax rate drops to zero. Is that the new tax cuts McCain is talking abour?
114. Ed | 09.05.08
1998: McCain Voted Against An Amendment To Raise The Minimum Wage. McCain voted against an amendment to increase the minimum wage to $5.65 an hour beginning January 1, 1999, and $6.15 an hour beginning January 1, 2000. According to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics, 64% of all minimum wage earners were women in 1998. [1998 Senate Vote #278, 9/22/1998]
1996: McCain Voted Against An Amendment To Raise The Minimum Wage. McCain voted against passage of the bill to increase the minimum wage from its current level of $4.25 per hour to $4.75 per hour on July 1, 1996, and to $5.15 per hour on July 1, 1997. According to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics, 64.3% of all minimum wage earners were women in 1996.
1989: McCain Voted Against An Amendment To Raise The Minimum Wage. McCain voted against minimum wage increases to $4.55/hr in 3 annual steps by 10/1/91. According to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics, 63.1% of all minimum wage earners were women in 1989.
McCain has voted over and over over the last decades against increase in minimum wage. How can he possibly understand the hard working man and woman?
115. Shepp | 09.06.08
Kudos Ted. Mccain deserves his props for service period.
His use of this for political gain has my Father a Ranger from the 101st 1947-1957
116. jefflz | 09.06.08
McCain has turned this election into a soap opera about Sarah Palin and her family. Is this what we need to be talking about during these critical times when people are losing their jobs, their homes, and soldiers are losing their lives? Why is it that we are forced to deal with a hockey mom and her problems that can fill the National Enquirer ten times over? McCain clearly has contempt for the electoral process and the American people deserve so much more.
117. canadian | 09.06.08
MacNaughtP. good post! I am canadian and I agree with your comments 100%.John McCain is a war monger, who only knows of one way to disolve disputes, going to war.According to our media not only does he have a poor grasp of world history and world events, but he supports enlarging the american military complex.
I cannot for the life of me figure out why americans would re-elect the republicans, after what they done for the last 8 years.
118. C. Casperson | 09.06.08
I have to agree with Jonathan, the second comment. McCain has historically been quite specifically different than Bush -in fact diametrically opposed to Bush in many many ways - “McCain pledged to invite Democrats as well as independents into his administration, distancing himself from the approach of Bush, who typically counted on fellow Republicans to turn his policies into law.”
McCain, unlike Bush, is a resolute fighter against waste and corruption, even within his own party.
–For the lawmakers who seek the special spending projects known as earmarks, McCain said, ‘I will make them famous, and you will know their names.
–recast himself as a seasoned soldier ready to fight the entrenched interests of Washington on behalf of the average American.”
If people make up their mind about something, then they close their ears.
I have been living in France, and I experience first hand the failure of high taxes to solve people’s problems. Obama’s voting record has been only left, only liberal. He is more left than a Socialist. Socialism has made a mess in France. Socialized medicine makes for low quality medicine . I am living with this as I said, and as beautiful as France is, the bureaucracy is a nightmare and the whole socialist system as well. Don’t believe Obama’s fairy tales, is all I can say. Respectfully submitted.
119. Pamela Davis | 09.06.08
WE MUST DEMAND THAT SARAH PALIN BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE MEDIA.
and NOW!
Questions need to be answered by her without benefit of seasoned speech-writers and political advisers.
But of course we won’t see it until the woman is indoctrinated into the putrid political cesspool she supports.
Right now they are scared out of their wits that this loose cannon will spout some of her ridiculous viewpoints & opinions.
Her speech btw was disgustingly cocky, sarcastic and downright mean.
She left a foul taste in my mouth and frankly should be tending to her floundering, dysfunctional tribe.
She’s a high flying, ambitious,destructive chit and we don’t need people of that ilk standing next in line to a Presidency.
My God! Can people not see through these people????
120. Joseph | 09.06.08
Obama snapped today at his event in Indiana, revealing an angry, snide dimension not seen up till now. So much for “disagreeing without being disagreeable.” He also revealed what’s most important to him when he told his staff that he hopes they’re ready for a real fight because he “hasn’t stayed in hotels and eaten hotel food for 19 months just to come in second.” Winning is what it’s about for him, and his noble proclamations of a higher purpose have been revealed as a disguise. The panic is starting to show. Sarah Palin won’t be melting down the way Obama is. And she’s obviously propelling her ticket to a victory in November.
121. Steve | 09.06.08
The selection of Sara Palin as the Republican Candidate for Vice President of the United States was a sheer act of desperation by John McCain. Can she pick up a few disgruntled Hillery supporters? Only just a few. She is a religious fundamentalist radical that is against abortion even in cases of rape in incest. This is not what Hillery stood for. John did pander to the Republican evangelical wing nuts. What he fails to realize that most Christians are not fundamentalist. They are not only tired of Reverend Wright, but Rod Parsley, < John Hagee, and , Pat Robertson etc. The old “Moral Majority” is neither moral or a majority. Most Christian Americans simply do not hold the radical beliefs like Palin like: Jews will go to **** if they don’t accept Jesus Christ. How is that for support of Israel? McCain has no economic policy except continuation of the Bush tax cuts (which he was initially against) He also wants to cut corporate income taxes. (Remember the old trickle down voodoo economics?) Same o’l stuff. He wants to take your pretax credits for health care and tax them and give you back an income tax credit. Wow! Take away a 100 percent tax credit and give back a 28 percent tax credit. Good work John. Also, true to the corporate fascists philosophy. “Let market conditions prevail”!!!! We will turn your health care over to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. He simply fails to get the point that health care is a right not a privilege!!!! Remember the phrase “promote the general welfare”. Nope, Big John forgot that one. Also, just let us privatize social security, the military, the VA and your local police and fire departments. Yea!!!! Let us not forget education. Charter schools for all. Private schools funded by public money. What a deal!!!!
I could go on but I am sure that some of you are tired of this message.
I changed my party affiliation to Democratic from 30 years as a Republican. I even was a Reagan delegate to the GOP convention.
I intend to vote for Obama/Biden
122. LaRae | 09.06.08
An interesting perspective regarding the choice of Palin from an unusual religious stand point - I highly recommend checking it out.
http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929
123. Arthur Lemay | 09.06.08
Now, really, all those ultra-left posters on this site just don’t get it. We are having some short term problems to be sure, but the economy has been excellent in George Bush’s two terms in office. I guess those on the left feel that a lie, repeated enough, loud enough will come to be viewed as the truth.
The Democrats have nominated an absolutely terrible candidate for the Presidency who has a record of dishonesty, anti-Americanism, anti-Capitalism, and is a incapable of standing up even to a seven year old girl who asks a hard question.
And, why anyone can possibly think he can be anything but a total disaster as President is absolutely beyond my understanding.
124. Ex Pat | 09.06.08
What can we believe about Sarah Palin? An interesting article is available at
http://www.laprogressive.com, most easily accessed by googling the phrase:
Alaskans speak in a frightened whisper
Among other comments:
“As for being “ready on day one” to be commander in chief, despite the repeated public claims she’s made, the Alaska National Guard commander said that, “she has made no command decisions, other than sending some troops to help fight a few brush fires and march in parades at county fairs.” ”
I suppose some folks reading these comments think she can learn foreign relations on the job. Ask yourself this. Would you want a bush pilot learning to fly the 747 you are flying in, learning on the job? If your faith is that unshakeable, hey - happy holidays.
To me, Sarah speaks to frightened, desperate people seeking public affirmation of their escapism and their denial of this world, and their longing for a simpler place to live than planet earth.
125. Margarette Bull | 09.07.08
McCain speech was not inspiring. He gave sound bites and then paused for all the yelling and clapping. Later, I wasn’t even able to tell a friend who missed the speech what plans he put forth to change what he thought was wrong with the current administration even though he used the word ‘change’ over and over again. Of course, we did get to hear his story of his imprisonment which was very touching but doesn’t qualify him to be President of the United States especially since it may color his judgment in regards to making decisions about war.
I have a problem with the fact that he proclaims himself to be a maverick and at the same time asks the public to trust him. Don’t you think that sounds like an oxymoron? According to The American Heritage Dictionary a ‘Maverick’ is “One that refuses to abide by the dictates of or resists adherence to a group; a dissenter.” It doesn’t sound like the kind of person who can unify the Republican Party let alone a nation.
If there are going to be rousing speeches on the campaign trail I want to hear the candidates’ clear plans on how to bring about solutions to America’s problems. Can a maverick really accomplish anything?
126. Margarette Bull | 09.07.08
wow–It takes a long time for something to post on this website. I guess I used a word that was unacceptable. oops. I wonder where I could get a list of reject words…….which words does a computer edit out? Golly Gosh! I’m glad people can’t say whatever they want on this website considering who owns the paper. I just never thought I’d be the one caught saying a ‘bad’ word. Politics can do that to a person. Better wash my mouth out with soap.
127. ethel08 | 09.08.08
Here is Senator John McCain in 2001:
“But I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of the middle class Americans who MOST need tax relief.” (emphasis mine)
See it in the Congressional Record:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2001_record&page=S5789&position=all
CANDIDATE McCain has made these same tax cuts the heart of his tax policy.
Flip flop, much?
And this is the guy who is going to reform the GOP? How–by adopting all of their policies that he once disagreed with?
128. Annie | 09.09.08
I’m a life-long moderate Democrat and was thinking of voting for McCain because I thought he was moderate, until he chose Palin. Where’s the “change” in that choice? The only difference between her and George Bush is gender. Actually, I think she makes Bush look liberal. McCain’s campaign has become all about Palin, and not what he as President would do. This election should be about the candidates running for President, not the Vice President, but with his age, I have real concerns about her being next in line. She scares me. I don’t want to live in a theocracy, and I fear that’s where we are headed now, with the McCain/Palin ticket, should they win. I am saddened that in a time of our poor economy, a huge national deficit, a war without end, rising gas prices, loss of international respect for the U.S., and melting polar ice caps, the Republican party is once again all about the personal issues of abortion, gay rights, and religion. I personally see no change in that platform from the past 8 years. My vote is going to Obama.
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1. jade | 09.05.08
Education Policy of McCain’s Soul mate
In his acceptance speech McCain argued the country to join him in the fight for our children future. But unfortunately he has picked a soul mate that is not up to that challenge. With Alaska enjoying budget surpluses, Gov Palin has attempted to ban books at the library, ban sex-education in schools and close museums, libraries, and youth centers.
One out of 20 children entering ninth grade in Alaska will have a college degree 10 years later, making the state one of the worst in post secondary-education in the nation. Alaska’s efforts to improve the dropout problem have also sunk. More than one in three ninth-graders will leave school before getting a diploma. These results from a new state study show a faltering Alaska education system.
The report found Alaska ranking at the bottom of educational attainment indicators — from getting children through high school to achieving an advanced degree in a timely manner. Alaska is 8th from the bottom in the nation among states in the number of ninth-graders graduating four years later. 4th from the bottom in high school seniors going directly to college. Last in the number of college freshmen receiving a bachelor’s degree within 150 percent of the normal program length. The Gov. her self did six transfers during her six years of college life!
“This really sends the message of how immediate the need is and the gravity of the situation,” said Diane Barrans, executive director of the state’s Post secondary Education Commission, which released this study.
The problem is cultural. Alaska is a state of individualism, people doing their own things. Most of the debates and policies are Drill! Drill! “Like a sieve, kids are falling away and the Palin Government has not figured how to address the issue. She has given a blind eye on the subject. Her main agenda is drill oil so as to increase budget surplus and ban sex education so as to increase State labor force. Is McCain really serious about of our children ’s future?