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Biden? Biden? Anyone remember Joe Biden?

By Jimmy Orr | 09.10.08

In case the American voting population may have forgotten, there is another vice presidential nominee out there.  His name is Joe Biden.

He could be the equivalent of the Professor and Mary Ann in the first year of Gilligan’s Island where they were just referred to as “the rest” in the popular sitcom theme song.  But as “Island” fans will remember, in season two they were given their proper billing at the end of the song.

Back in the saddle

Just like the forgotten duo,  Joe Biden is back and getting his proper recognition.   Why?  Well, it’s because of Sarah Palin, sure, but news is news.

He’s gearing up for his October 2 debate with the “moose-shooter” (as Barack Obama described Governor Palin recently).  And he’s doing it by preparing with another female Governor who shares similarities with Palin.

Getting ready to rumble

Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm will play the part of Sarah Palin in multiple sparring sessions preparing the sometimes-gaffe prone Senator for the upcoming showdown.

Granholm and Palin are both sitting Governors.  They’re both in the same age bracket and both competed in beauty pageants.  In fact, Granholm once appeared on “The Dating Game.”  And they’ve both been described as “tough as nails.”

Just a sample

Biden gave a little preview of his strategy at a fundraiser last night in Chicago.

“I know what she’s going to try to do,” told the gathering of supporters. “She’s going to try to make it as personal as she can. She’s going to take a lot of straight lefts and jabs at me, she’s going to try to get me to respond, she’s going to try to get me to respond in a personal way. That’s not my style. I’m not going to do it.”

His style?  Not small ball.  Not the stuff currently circulating around the blogs and news sites like the “Bridge to Nowhere” or her story of listing the Alaska state plane on Ebay, he said.  He’s going large.

“What I care about is what in God’s name she’s going to do – along with John McCain – about the thousands of people who don’t have health care,” he said.

Further, according to the Chicago Sun-Times, he’s going to ask her about “the superhighway of terror between Pakistan and Afghanistan where my helicopter was forced down…John McCain wants to know where Bin Laden and the gates of Hell are? I can tell him where. That’s where Al Qaeda is. That’s where Bin Ladin is. It’s not in the country of Iraq.”

Don’t believe them polls

He also cautioned the group about reading too much into recent polls which show an exodus of women leaving the Obama-Biden ticket to the McCain-Palin team.

“The press is exaggerating how white women are all of a sudden for Sarah Palin,” Biden said. “We still have more women voting for Barack Obama than for John McCain.”

The upcoming debate is scheduled for October 2 at Washington University in St. Louis and begins at 8pm (CT).

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Comments

1. Pamela | 09.10.08

Sorry Joe, but you are worthless, been in the Senate 30 yrs, haven’t done much to make a name for yourself. Sarah must scare you to be coached by Governor Jennifer. By the way, women are voting for Sara, tired of sexists like you and Obama. Remember at the convention, when introducing your wife, you said:”Did I mention she’s drop-dead gorgeous?” HOW ABOUT INSTEAD, THAT SHE HOLDS BOARD MEETINGS AT 4 LARGE COMPANIES, AND RAISES KIDS?. YOU LOSE!

2. beevee | 09.10.08

My suggestion to the democratic VP nominee is to keep the debate practice in low profile and not to give so much publicity and the details of what he will be debating. Prepare well, surpirse and shock Palin.

3. Sean | 09.10.08

I remember watching the confirmation hearings for Chief Justice Roberts. Biden talked for fifty some minutes and Roberts answered for about ten. If that’s any indicator it should be less of a debate and more of a round of pontification with questions interspersed.

How does that joke go?

“In Washington there is no greater love than the one that exists between Joe Biden and the sound of his own voice.

4. Donna Hughes | 09.10.08

What do you expect? Palin is a new toy. Eventually everything will be known about her and the novelty will wear off.

Oh, I’m a white woman, and I think Palin is a joke.

5. Kb | 09.10.08

So many of us do not have enough to put our children through college.
So many of us do not have enough to pay our mortgage.
So many of us do not have enough to pay our bills.
So many of us do not have enough for health care.
So many of us do not have enough for gas.
So many of us do not have enough.

But there is something we have had enough of.
Enough of Bush.
Enough of McCain.

Enough is enough.


Kevin B

I’m saying it now: President Barack H. Obama, Jr., 2009 - 2017

6. tiddle | 09.10.08

Biden is playing smart again, thinking he knows all the cards up the sleeves of Palin. I look forward to how Palin would slay the dragon.

7. Pamela | 09.10.08

You will be taxed to death, really read it! Destroy the middle class with his taxes, dividend tax? yes! Kiss your 401 goodbye.

8. Pamela | 09.10.08

How can you think Palin is a joke??? 80% approval rating in her state, sticks to what she believes in, even giving birth to a down syndrome child, because of her beliefs, a loving husband. Man, You Dems can’t even be nice to someone who has done good.

9. C.R.N. | 09.10.08

You have got to love politicians like Senator Biden, with their prognostications that they pass off as fact, like “We still have more women voting for Barack Obama than for John McCain.” Senator, the vote has yet to happen, so all we have is polls and projections. The vote has yet to happen and after those two self-centred ego-centric senators have finished two months of sexist comments, I’ll be curious to see who has more of the women’s vote.

10. tony | 09.10.08

Obama had a freudian slip on not wanting people to talk about his muslim faith. He is a muslim and he referred to 57 states he has campaigned in. Newsflash: there are 57 Muslim states….

But dont take my word for it. Try Wikipedia or Youtube for all you nonbelievers

11. frank | 09.10.08

>>So many of us do not have enough to put our children through college.
So many of us do not have enough to pay our mortgage.
So many of us do not have enough to pay our bills.<<

Blah blah blah. So many in the world don’t have enough to eat everyday. Will you give 50% of your income to help them? I give 50% of my income to help you. And I’ll bet you have a PC, cellphone and cable TV and two cars. You should be ashamed.

12. dragonfly777 | 09.10.08

Biden is a washed up politician. His recent attacks on a downs baby has left me unbelievably stunned. How low can the Democrats sink? All the way to the bottom. Lord I am ashamed of having ever been part of that process. And all you hate filled Dems can say what you want and threaten and bully, which in truth you are the new terrorists from inside. Never ever will I ever vote for this party of Fascists!

13. lonecrone | 09.10.08

Joe Biden is one of my favorite people. He has served at the highest levels in congress, traveled all over the world, and still remembers where he came from. He hasn’t used his congressional position to amass private wealth. He traveled home by Amtrak to Wilmington every night so he could tuck his children into bed and fix them breakfast, but he never made a big deal out of it. He personally believes abortion is wrong, but is against (Like John Kennedy)the government interfering in people’s lives.

Governer Palin can’t hold a candle to this man. She made her family into her politcal pawns and she trots them out at every opportunity. She’s made it an issue, yet whines every time anyone mentions her family. I felt so sorry for her daughter being used like that. The poor child looked like a deer in the headlights.

Palin has no background in foreign affairs. She knows nothing about national security. She’s never even issued a single command to the Alaska National Guard. I believe she will let her Pentecostal religion influence her decisions. It’s especially scary when you realize that they believe in “the end of days”, and that the war in the Middle East is the final battle against Satan. I don’t trust her to support my interests as a citizen or to act in the best interest of the country.

Palin is not qualified for the job. She is simply a distraction used by the Republicans to mask their lack of any coherent, new plan for the future of the country. I only hope that the debates with Biden show her up for the empty person she is. Of course she and her handlers will scream “sexism” at every turn as further distraction from her ignorance.

I agree with Ed Koch - she scares me to death too.

14. robetson | 09.10.08

I care about you not being in charge of my health care.

Health Care is Reason #1 NOT to vote Oboma Biden!!!!

A one stop shop of health insurance for everyone creates a giant monster company not interested in me as a customer.

I want my health insurance to be as easy as car insurance - hundreds to choose from, competitive customer service, great benefites, low cost, take my care to any repair service I choose!!!

WHY IS THAT SO HARD???

15. Donna Hughes | 09.10.08

Sorry to have to inform you but Joe Biden authored and kept slogging through inertia and disagreement in congress to get the Violence Against Women Act passed, which made all sorts of help available to battered women. So don’t call him a sexist! It only shows how ignorant you are. You are just repeating someone else’s ignorant accusations!

16. Bob in Issaquah | 09.10.08

I am truely amazed at the gullibility of Republican and independent voters. To be excited about a person be cause she is a woman,looks nice, has a good family etc. What about the issues, where is the changes that they have not enunciated, Where is the clean campaign that Mc Cain espoused? Most importantly, what is going to be done to undo the economic mess that Bush and the Republican superstars have created. Can’t ever person regardless of what party they belong to see through all the spin and yes lies and think through the consequences of 4 more years of the same

17. John Brown | 09.10.08

I don’t think it would be to hard to get an 80% approval rating in a sparsely populated state; especially when you support an oil pipeline that bring royalty checks to the residents of Alaska.

18. Palin the same | 09.10.08

During her fall 2006 campaign for governor, Palin appeared to embrace the so-called “Bridge to Nowhere,” even after Alaska had been held up for ridicule by McCain and others for what was seen as a wasteful boondoggle, a $233 million bridge that would replace ferry service connecting Gravina Island and its Ketchikan airport to mainland Ketchikan.

In a debate, Palin said she would fight for the earmark to build the bridge. McCain and others sought to divert those funds to help fund Hurricane Katrina recovery. That prompted a threat from Stevens to resign from the Senate for such discrimination against his state.

A year later, as criticism of earmarks mounted, Palin began to speak out against earmarks. Though she took the federal money to fund Alaska earmarks, she diverted the money for the Ketchikan bridge to other projects. She also issued a news release to alert the national press to her action.

Palin’s criticisms strained her relationship with Alaska’s congressional delegation because they were still receiving plenty of earmark requests that they were trying to push through a Democrat-controlled Congress. This year, in addition to the 31 submitted by Palin’s office, there were dozens submitted by smaller communities and borough governments.

“It really drove a wedge between her and the Alaska delegation,” Persily said. “She was branding them as irresponsible, and they felt like she was holding them up to public ridicule.”

Palin also was admonished by the Fairbanks News-Miner, which chided her for “misplaced criticism” for suggestions that the state earmarks were pork-barrel projects.

Palin wrote back an angry response, saying she had reduced the earmarks — but never labeled them as “pork projects.”

Palin wrote that she supports state earmarks “when there is an important federal purpose and strong citizen support.”

She also said in the News-Miner that she had slashed the state’s earmark requests by nearly two-thirds, down from $550 million in 2007 to just under $200 million.

Palin’s earmarks request came just days after President Bush promised in his State of the Union address to veto any spending bills from Congress unless lawmakers cut earmarks in half.

Yet documents Palin’s office released to The Seattle Times on Tuesday show her cuts in earmarks were far more modest than she claimed. Last year, Palin requested $254 million in earmarks, not $550 million, so her cuts this year were only 22 percent, not the 63 percent she claimed.

Karen Rehfeld, Palin’s Office of Management and Budget director, said she needed to look into the discrepancy between her boss’s written remarks and the earmark tally provided by the staff. “We want to make sure we don’t have a problem,” Rehfeld said.

19. GG | 09.10.08

There, there, Kb. Yes, for all Americans who don’t have enough to pay bills, college, healthcare, ad nauseum…electing Barack Obama is the answer.
Yes, He will be elected and will make sure our Government will take care of providing all those things for you.

Meanwhile, I’ll continue working hard on taking care of those things for myself, thanks. And voting for anyone besides a Democrat.

20. Billy | 09.10.08

Joe Biden is going to be a footnote in history as the mistake made by Barak Obama that caused the democrats to loose the 2008 presidential election. Of course the mistake was not nominating Hilary for president because Obama never had a chance. The USA is right now divided between conservative and liberal ideology. Only a conservative Democrat or a liberal Republican is electable. Obama resonates well within the Democrat party because they are liberal but he can never bring the general population around to his philosophy. He is going to try to change and move to center but it is too late and he’ll just look like a sell out and a man without values.

21. Palin the same | 09.10.08

Pamela what are you doing here bashing Biden? You repubs
are ALL the same. I can’t wait for Oct 2!!!!!

22. AsBee | 09.10.08

Funny reading that Joe Biden knows where he came from LOL He is from Delaware, but thinks he is from Scranton

If Palin is white trash as many lefties treat her, I guess that makes oSama the son of white trash?

Yep, keep waiting for October 2nd…and after that Nov. 4th and then 2012 LOL

McCain Palin in November
Registered Democrat for McCain Palin

23. ghg | 09.10.08

I knew Joe Biden was Obama’s VP pick when Obama was asked a simple question about when he thought human life began and Obama couldn’t answer because the question “theologically and uh uh uh, scientifically uh uh speaking, is above my uh uh paygrade”. That’s a tipoff. Biden loves to berate those that appear before him that they’re making decisions “above their paygrades”. Obama and Biden are two phony’s that deserve each other and personally I think that the Presidency and Vice-Presidency are above both of their “paygrades.” Thank heavens America’s wising up to those two buffoons!

24. JW | 09.10.08

It appears that it’s true that old Joe tends to “open mouth and insert foot” occasionally. He made that ludicrous remark about Hillary’s being a better choice for VP than even himself. Wow! Does that inspire confidence in a ticket that seems to be struggling at the moment? I also can’t wait for the 2nd of October. I hope that the Governor rips him to shreds. Somehow, I don’t think that she’ll be the “easy pickings” that the Dems would love to think she is.

25. W.H.E. | 09.10.08

But Barack!, ‘Lipstick on a pig?’ Shame on you!!!
Why don’t you put lipstick all over yourself.

26. John | 09.11.08

We democrats should just admit that we made a mistake in nominating Obama. Obama is not the Messiah. He is a fraud. The Republicans will win and there’s nobody to blame but ourselves. Knowing what I know now about Mr. Obama, I wish he loses big time, as in a landslide, as in a tsunami, as in an unprecedented margin in US election history. But will Obama be embarrassed? Of course not because his ego is way way too big for that.

27. SoCalGal | 09.11.08

So many of us do not have enough to put our children through college.
So many of us do not have enough to pay our mortgage.
So many of us do not have enough to pay our bills.
So many of us do not have enough for health care.
So many of us do not have enough for gas.
So many of us do not have enough.

So? Get off your *** and create prosperity FOR YOURSELF! This is America, fer cryin’ out loud! Get your hands not in front of you for a handout but squarely around your own bootstraps and PULL UP. C’mon…you can do it. You don’t need the Gubm’nt to take care of you cradle to grave.

28. NCR | 09.11.08

Obama and Biden? Is that the BEST you Democrats could come up with? First you come up with Loser-Gore and then Scary-Kerry, and now these two bozos. I predict that this sinking ship will try to pull a fast one just before the election. Biden will step aside for “personal reasons” and Hillary will amazingly step into the veep spot. Will the Democrats fall for it? Of course; they elected Bill…TWICE! Stupid as stupid gets.

29. leo | 09.11.08

Palin is a celebrity,
I have to recognize that the republican campaign team are very smart, and are making the right moves to win the elections.
This election is not about issues as Obama think. McCain found that fighting with Obama in that area will be pointless. He will have a hard time trying to justify the the role of the republican party in the last 8 years of power.

But he is already famous because of his POW statue in Vietnam. And they made an smart tactical move with Palin and finally he destroy Obama argument about change, saying that he is going to change Washington too. (If this is the case then Obama is not special anymore).

So what is about?
IS ABOUT who is more popular.
Who care about the war in Iraq or how we are going to end our debt with China or how we are going to create new job and infrastructure or how our old rivals like Russia are not afraid to challenge us and we can not defend our allies or the immigration Or our weakness in our education or health care system

We have Palin and she was the perfect move. She is what everybody want to talk about. She is a real celebrity, America had a celebrity culture and most of the people don’t have the time to read deep and think about policies or issues.

What about Biden? he is a normal joe. If he want to do something he should become a celebrity, maybe he should participate in a reality show. That would help.

30. Jess | 09.11.08

The fact that Joe Biden refuses to go against his friend, Palin (yes.. they are close friends, in fact, and he will NOT say anything bad about her) says volumes about his integrity… and the integrity of Dems in particular.

Well chosen Obama!

Palin seems like the popular person type. She’s friends with EVERYONE- so the doors are all open for her. She doesn’t have to have the best work, be brilliant, or have experience– her success is due to people just liking her. Her non-niceness shows up when dare anybody.. try to challenge her (mocking in her speech was a hallmark).

(( I am appalled at how bad her animal rights view are– in a land of Alaska with beautiful wildlife- a smile worn on a fur coat background won’t work for me. ))

31. Joven | 09.11.08

Palin seems to be making friends in all the right places. Biden is just the tip of the iceberg..

Just the other day.. I read a report about a liberal pro-choice woman reporter .. who is personal friends of Palin. The reporter is a Dem… doesn’t agree with most views of Palin.. but now that her friend is nominated.. well.. she’s got to vote for her. It’s wrong.. but it’s just one of those “gosh.. I like her things”. She said.. “life just works this way sometimes.. you want to see your friend up there.. principles be dammed”.

Wish Palin would be friends with the polar bears and moose.. too… among the rest of us left out.

Close.. but no cigar.

32. Madeline | 09.11.08

Obama and Biden have the skills and knowledge to both inspire people in this country and in the world, and the experience to do so. “Princess Palin” is being sheltered from media contact. That is sppstrnyly because she lacks knowledge to answer tough questions from the press. She lacks the interntional experience and the judgement to be VEEP. I don’t believe she has the capacity to meet in a diplomatic way with world leaders, or even members of Congress. Perhaps she doesn’t realize that the US is part of a larger world, one that recognizes global warming, different religions, and needs for solid, ethical actions.

33. masy | 09.11.08

How can Republicans support McCain or Palin, they are no different than Bush and he has been disasterous for America. You like knowing we are LESS safe since 9/11, gas prices are higher than ever,health care and the economy are the worst? And you think women want anyone else deciding what they can and cannot do with their bodies? Please think for yourselves, don’t be like a herd of cattle. President of the United States is a very important job people, let’s elect someone with an education that can make good informed decisions.

34. Paul | 09.11.08

True that Biden pushed hard to get the Violence Against Battered Women Act passed. Also true that rape victims in Wasilla, AK, had to pay for their own forensic tests while Palin was mayor. I know who is a better friend to American women.

35. Helen | 09.11.08

There were a large field of candidates running for president on both the democratic and republican sides with their own supporters. I think it was good of Barack Obama to select one of the people who ran for president against him in the primaries. It shows a little respect for all the people who went to the primaries and voted for a candidate. Even though he did not select Hilary, I am sure that both the Clintons will enhance the performance of Obama if he should be elected beyond the political environment.

There was a good jolt of public reaction for McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin that energized the campaign but I liked a couple of the people who ran in the Republican primaries and I wish he would have considered one of those people.

I think both Barack Obama and John McCain are both credible candidates. They just have very different views.

36. Mike | 09.12.08

Let’s be honest, we have seen time and time again that a monkey can be President. Look at Bush, Clinton, and Carter, and Ford. In the past 40 years, with the exception of Reagan, all monkeys. For crying out loud, have we forgotten about how Clinton multi-tasked with the President of Bosnia on one end, and Monica on the other? So the prospect of a President Palin is fine with me (it hs a nice ring), in fact she may bring back the Golden Age of Reagan. It will be “Morning in America” again.

37. UAE Calling | 09.17.08

Obama should have selected Angelina Jolie instead of Jack’O Biden.

38. Andy | 09.19.08

Time to face reality, Republicans. The policies McCain supports are the same ones that put us where we are financially and internationally, The buck has to stop here and unfortunately it stops on Bush and the Republican policy of policing our morality while ignoring the economic and global spheres MEANT to be looked after by government. Cry socialist/marxist/communist/muslim/[insert scary extremist here] about Obama, something needs to change and only one of our two choices in this election provides any. In my opinion this is bigger than Democrats v Republicans…if the same no answers, Rovian tactics get another inefficient war hawk and their stage prop into office, a lot of the population is going to lose all confidence in our democratic system and things could get very ugly.

39. Carol | 09.22.08

Who is going to pay for National Health Care? Obama/Biden? The Democratic Party?

40. Carol | 09.22.08

By the way, where is Joe Biden anyway?

41. Tom Bro-KAW | 09.23.08

Ah Joe, we knew you would surface again from your hole when you had some statement where you could put both your feet in your pretty mouth. Helicopters down is a militant induced snowstorm near Taliban camps?

You are a great friend to the Republican ticket. I thank you and your large trap!!

Nobama…Keep the Change.

42. jim hall | 10.08.08

If obama whens and in six month or so fact of obama’s relationnship with so called shady people would he apologize to the american people and step down himself .
He has done nothing as a elected official the past 30 tears and would propablly continue on the same path usual.

43. robetson | 10.18.08

Obama = Socialized Society.

Take your favorite sports team. Reduce their salaries by 2/3.
Take your favorite bar. Reduce its income by 2/3.
Take your favorite restaurant. Reduce its income by 2/3.
Take your grandchildren. Reduce their income potential by 2/3.
Take your insurance. Reduce your choices by 2/3.

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