(Jake Turcotte)
Palin to Biden: Bring it on!
By Jimmy Orr | 09.29.08
It wasn’t the trash-talking you see before a football game, but Sarah Palin showed some spunk today at a rally in Ohio.
With a new poll showing Barack Obama the decisive winner in the first presidential debate, all eyes are on Thursday night’s vice presidential debate.
Let’s just move forward
After a week that provided plenty of fodder for Saturday Night Live material, the Republican nominee for vice president was a crowd pleaser today and seemed eager to talk about the upcoming debate.
“I guess it’s my turn now,” she said. “And I do look forward to Thursday night.”
“I’m looking forward to meeting him,” she continued. “I’ve never met him. I’ve been hearing about his Senate speeches since I was in, like, the second grade.”
Lower expectations?
She did the pre-debate spin, too, as in lowering expectations (although many GOP strategists have said after last week it’s impossible to lower expectations any further).
“I have to admit though, he is a great debater and looks pretty doggone confident like he’s sure he’s gonna win, but then again, this is the same Senator Biden who said the other day that the University of Delaware would trounce the Ohio State Buckeyes. Wrong!”
Palin was referring to a comment Biden made a couple weeks ago when speaking to the University of Delaware football team. Holding a football, Biden announced, “I told the folks in Ohio that we’d kick Ohio State’s ass!”
They tried, but the McCain team could never get any traction on Biden’s prediction. It was just Biden being Biden. He says stuff like that.
Real Palin
Palin says stuff, too, like “doggone” and “awesome.” And she calls her husband the “First Dude.”
That’s the Sarah Palin who can get John McCain elected, say some conservatives. Let her be herself. Knock off the spin. Let her get mad, they say, and fight her own fight.
Get real, Sarah!
New York Times columnist Bill Kristol amplified this call for a “real” Sarah Palin today, writing, “McCain picked Sarah Palin in part because she’s a talented politician and communicator. He needs to free her to use her political talents and to communicate in her own voice.”
Kristol said McCain was reportedly unhappy with his staff’s “handling of Palin,” sending campaign honchos Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis to Ohio to “liberate Palin to go on the offensive as a combative conservative.”
I told you so
This isn’t a new call. US News and World Report’s John Farrell said the same thing nearly two weeks ago.
“The worst thing the McCain folks could do is wreck Palin’s confidence,” he wrote. “She needs to be herself—and on her game—in the upcoming vice-presidential debate, not cowed and uncertain and brutalized by weeks of cramming and prep sessions.”
With only three nights to go before the biggest moment yet in Palin’s political life, Farrell could say, “I told you so.”
Ignore her
Democratic strategist Chris Lehane told The Vote that Biden needs to look past Palin and focus his efforts on communicating with the American people who will be tuning in on Thursday night.
“His goal is to ignore Palin and focus on connecting with voters sitting in their living rooms by making clear he is indeed one of them - an uncommon, common man,” Lehane said.
What about his reputation as gaffe-prone? A fumble is OK — its only the context that matters said Lehane.
“He can discuss campaign ads or whether or not conducted his fire side chats by radio or tv, but so long as the gaffes do not make the Democratic ticket look patronizing, elitist or arrogant than any such gaffes will have the lasting impact of cotton candy,” he said.
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2. Heath | 09.29.08
I get the biggest kick out of ill informed people who actually believe that the economy is the primary responsibility of the President of the United States. It is not. Defense and protection is the primary goal of the Presidency. Oh and by the way, the Democrats, the supposed “saviors” of the nation from the Republicans have controlled Congress for 2 years and have done nothing while acquiring an approval rating half that of the President. Now that’s a remarkable achievement. Not that whining gluttons of the American electorate actually know or care.
3. ? | 09.29.08
Doesnt matter how good/bad she does, she is a BASE pick and nothing more.
Barack Obama is your next President, she is a foot-note.
4. M. Tobias | 09.29.08
Yes, in LIKE, the second grade because
in Alaska that is more like a kindergarten.
Ms. Plain, you better be a quick study.
5. M. Tobias | 09.29.08
A couple of posts above HEATH wrote:
“Not that the whining gluttons of the American electorate actually know or care.”
Is that the Phil Gramm/John McCain school of Rough Justice? Tough Love Heath?
More like tough ****** to you, come November 4th.
6. Nathan | 09.29.08
I dont have much hope for Palin that she will be able to have a decent debate. I feel she is too stupid. They like to say that she is not made to be herself, so I am guessing that the McShame campaign told her to stick to her idiotic remarks of seeing Russian land so she has Foreign Policy experience.
I am sorry but she is too inexperienced to be a VP. The VP position or Presidents position is not something that you get on the job training at, either you have the experience and can lead or get out. We are in enough trouble that we do not need McShame in office or Moosehunter trying to wing it.
7. Pedro | 09.29.08
Palin has done so poorly with her recent interviews that as long as she speaks in complete sentences this Thursday, it will be an improvement for her.
8. ted | 09.29.08
Sarah Palin has one chance of winning the debate - challenge Biden to a swimsuit contest.
9. Webwatch | 09.29.08
Democrats theoretically do not have a majority - there are two independents in the senate, one of whom - Liberman, has decided to support McCain now.
In any case Republicans controlled the congress for six years and had Bush as president but when the ***** hits fan its suddenly Democrats fault. Republicans and McCain were for deregulation for last few decades but now they are the champions of oversight. Give me a break!
10. Independent | 09.29.08
Don’t be a tool used by the single party with two names in Washington. Vote independent.
11. Nathan | 09.29.08
Hey Webwatch isn’t that a typical Republican. Get the country in a jam and then point fingers.
12. Andrew R. | 09.29.08
2. Heath | 09.29.08
Do you honestly believe that the housing crisis just started less than 2 years ago? By the time the Dems took control of Congress, the housing crisis has already started. Please stop trying to punt the responsibility of this mess over to the Democrats.
13. Mike | 09.29.08
If you do the math … based on her statements above Sarah Palin was 15 years old when she was in the second grade. I think that might be accurate because she is a moron. Also, taking a swipe at Joe Biden’s age seems REALLY stupid since he is nearly 10 years younger than McCain. Duh!!!
Sarah Palin …. Stupid is as stupid does.
14. Scott Gregg | 09.29.08
Congress HAS passed a lot of really good legislation in the last 2 years. Like the largest expansion of GI benefits since the end of WWII. And the first increase in the min wage in many many years. Also ethics reforms. The big problem in the Congress is the Republicans. They tried and failed to block the GI benefits and tried and failed to block the minimum wage increase. However there are just enough in the Senate to stifle passage of laws that require 60 votes to pass!!!!! Ergo lo-approval is still the Republicans fault. Duh!
15. Jim | 09.29.08
Hey! Way to win friends there, Heath! When the ecomony is put under extroidinary stress and brings our nation to the doors of a national BANKRUPTCY, who do you think is responsible?
Now, really think deeply about that one. What would be our leader’s response, if suddenly, we could no longer afford to enforce certain things because we had to take care of basics only? And what would your list of top 10 basics be? Which party would benefit the most?
I see a lot of people blaming Congress, but remember Congress is us. They are our representatives. If they are not agreeing, or if they are not getting the job done, then we haven’t used the tools we have available to us to do OUR job — communicate with your represetatives.
16. mike | 09.29.08
I am so sick of the republicans and what they have to do to get elected… Rely on morons and manipulation.. They win say goodbye to your brain trust (All those dumb elitists) over the next decade… thanks GWB thanks republicans, thanks and now we can join Rome
17. J Anthony | 09.29.08
Agreed, she is nothing more than a footnote; her bikini pictures will be more remembered than anything that comes out of her mouth. She truly is an insult to smart hard-working women and it is amazing that McCain thought he could simply pick some unknown bimbo and expect her to match Hilary in terms of brains and experience.
Her trying to get her juices flowing for Thursday’s debate is a sad response to her situation. Someone who is confident would not need to do so. I expect that this VP debate is going to be much more watched than the Pres debate. I know I am looking forward to it — to see how Palin will botch up. Everyone gravitates to their true capabilities no matter how much preparation is done. To win, Biden just needs to focus on the issues and emphasize his experience. Ignore her and she will kick her own butt. It will be hilarious to watch her make a fool out of herself.
18. B Hunn | 09.29.08
Realities:
1. The economic downturn is a result of the prior economic bubble
2. The President does not, and cannot, control the world, or the economy
3. Huge, poor, investments cannot be cured by using other peoples money
4. Time equalizes all bad decisions
5. Learn to read, write and think before you complain
19. Walt Festoon | 09.29.08
Hey Nathan, do you feel she is too stupid or do you think she is to stupid? There is a difference. Thinking she is too stupid implies you spent some time thinking before you wrote. Might be a good thing to do next time.
20. oregon4obama | 09.29.08
Bring it on!!!! Palin, seeing russia from an alaskan island or even trading with them doesnt give you foreign policy experience……
21. chet mccabe | 09.29.08
I strongly look forward to Palin going back to Alaska with “Dude” and quietly fading away into the Russian Sunset which she can see from her post!!! Why and How McCain picked her is beyond belief!!!
22. justamoment | 09.29.08
Sarah Palin is not a quitter and she’s only been on the national scene for a very short time … it only stands to reason that she is not as well informed on national politics as the “old Washington insiders”. Biden had been a senator for over thirty years and he doesn’t appear to even know our nation’s history. Now, I ask you, who should be more embarrassed about their public performances. It will be an interesting debate and I hope both candidates will be prepared … this is an important election and we should be looking for the good characteristics in all the candidates, instead of trying to defame and rip them apart.
24. The Rodentman | 09.29.08
I wonder, like, how many times she will say “like” in the debate. She and McSame together cannot muster a room temperature IQ.
25. blip | 09.29.08
You know she ate General Tso’s Chicken, once. She said it was kind funky tasting… and made a joke about dogs. But that’s besides the point.
Really this proves that she could lead our armed forces to victory in China.
26. mike | 09.29.08
Obama is turning out to be The Big Let-Down of ’08.
Obama kept insinuating that He is The Second Coming but every time we’ve held our breaths waiting for him to change water into wine, we’ve been disappointed. Obama kept telling us to ‘tune in next week!’ and he never delivers, the miracle never comes. There is nothing there.
Obama’s has a problem with clarity.
27. Twilighter | 09.29.08
Mike said: “Sarah Palin….Stupid is as stupid does.”
Frankly, I *would* prefer to see Forrest Gump in her position. At least that poor ******* had half a chance to succeed by accident. Whenever Palin tries to succeed on purpose - EPIC FAIL.
Never mind getting to yell “Run, Forrest, Run!”
28. Marshall | 09.29.08
Expectations for Sarah Palin going into this debate couldn’t be any lower than they already are after her dismal interviews with Katie Couric.
Anything better than a “blithering idiot” performance by her will be hailed by her supporters as victory.
29. Kathleen Keane | 09.29.08
I love her. I cannot wait to hear her again. She is a class act.
Oh….barracuda. How far did your smart Harvard guys get us? They were terrifically intelligent — and look at the dogpile they created.
I think you are skeered. You should be.
Go get em Sarah.
31. Uncle Sam | 09.29.08
To Heath: Excuses, excuses. You’re just a sour loser practicing blind obedience.
33. Mark | 09.29.08
Hey Mike,
Regarding your note, “If you do the math … based on her statements above Sarah Palin was 15 years old when she was in the second grade. I think that might be accurate because she is a moron. Also, taking a swipe at Joe Biden’s age seems REALLY stupid since he is nearly 10 years younger than McCain. Duh!!! Sarah Palin …. Stupid is as stupid does.”
Biden has been in the Senate for 35 years. Sarah Palin is 43. Stay with me now: 43-35=8. That would be about the age of a second grader.
Secondly, she wasn’t taking a swipe at his age. She was saying he’s been in the beltway (that’s Washington DC) forever. A lifelong, career politician.
The only thing you got right is “stupid is as stupid does.” Must have looked in the mirror when you came up with that gem.
34. Job | 09.29.08
All the hungry liberal vultures are hovering over Palin waiting for her to collapse but wouldn’t dare dive in for the red meat. When your fake savior is exposed by 57 states in November, don’t cry and threaten to leave this county like Moore – DO IT we don’t want you liberals to ruin this country. Go to Germany they love to hear your rant.
35. ed | 09.29.08
I think it might be better to have a vice president getting OJT than a president getting on the job training….Have you forgotten that barack hussein obama has never done anything……except tell you what you want to hear…..wake up you ……
36. A True Libertarian | 09.29.08
There is going to be a revolution in this country and it’s going to be scary
37. Lee M. | 09.29.08
Some folks ought to be subjected to the same levels of scrutiny and criticism they throw on other people. Most of them wouldn’t survive. You are all in for a surprise. Decent people will still stand up and state their position on the issues which they have every right to do. If you disagree, then don’t vote for them. Keep your unintelligent name calling and babbling to yourself. It is unproductive and certainly ineffective in causing me to change my mind. If anything it reinforces my decision to vote Republican. If folks like you are against them that is every reason to be for them.
38. JD | 09.29.08
The situation we are in now was caused by greed. You’re not going to like this, but the greed of Joe “Six Pack” who decided to take the advice of a greedy banker and buy a $400,000 house on $35,000 a year… the same Joe who drives a Hummer when he can only afford a Yugo… the same Joe who is now (like everything else in the last 20 years) blaming the government for all of his poor decisions. Greedy bankers and CEOs aside, the folks who are living beyond their means and continue to consume with credit cards and loans are more to blame for our current state of affairs then anything else. If you were smart in the last 10 years, you only bought what you could afford and did NOT live off credit cards. There is one other element… Real Estate speculators who artificially inflated home prices by paying way too much for properties in markets where there was no income to purchase homes in the $300,000+ plus range. These speculators are now crying for the government to save them… Mommy, mommy… I made a boo-boo, help me! Grab your damn boot straps and pull your self up and try something else. It’s NOT the end of the world, although listening to Obama the last couple of months, you would think that it is.
39. mike | 09.29.08
Instead of taking this generational opportunity of having a Black American candidate running for the presidency to air-out our hidden feelings about race, the American public has chosen to channel its secretly-held racism into other, PC-acceptable forms of bigotry: sexism and regionalism.
“Sarah Palin is a bad driver”, “Sarah Palin is an idiot”, “Sarah Palin is a hick”.
Was anyone more accomplished or smarter than Hillary Clinton? Don’t think so, but it was okay in good society to revile her.
Most white yuppies with Obama lawn signs or bumper-stickers are trying to overcompensate for the forms of racism still stirring within them. They feel guilty when they pretend not to notice an inter-racial couple. And they are conscious that they feel slightly safer when driving through a bad neighborhood if they have an Obama sticker on their car.
Let’s be honest with ourselves for a change.
Sarah Palin is not the fifth cast member of ‘Sex and The City’. She is not a ‘Desperate Housewife’ on Wisteria Lane. She is a different American female role-model, not the one that male entertainment executives in LA and NYC created for your television troughs to feed on.
Too many ’sophisticated’ women invested too much time and money trying to become Carrie Bradshaw (…and they have failed) and now resent that all that effort has gone to waste. I think Maureen Dowd of the New York Times perfectly fits this type-casting: instead of being sexy and cosmopolitan, she now seems sluttly and dated.
Maybe America needs a new role model given its blatant sexism and regionalism. Maybe the New American Woman is all about God, Family, Country and Shot-Guns. Why do you feel so threatened?
40. Cowboy Tex | 09.29.08
Heath
Can you count? It took 6 of the last 8 years for the Republicans to do nothing. The proverbial hole they dug will take a while to dig out of.
As soon as Obama takes office you will see the much needed changes
this country needs. McCain can not even change his Depends with out checking
to see how Bush does it.
41. Vince Foster | 09.29.08
Ha..you guys think Palin is stupid, but Biden thought there was Television in ‘29.
Yeah thats just Joe being Joe. ( MORON ! )
Maybe Joe can pull another bit of plagiarism out of the labor Party again.
42. McPalin | 09.29.08
blah blah blah if you people would use all this energy to help the country,help each other rather then *****ing about they caused this or they did that or didnt do whatever we would all be fine. and remember its not the governments fault that the housing market took a dump its the idiots that bout the house when they knew the couldn’t afford it. so far all these problems i keep hearing you all ***** about can be blamed on the american people and nots its government. so next time u want to ***** trying taking your foot out your mouth!!
43. Scott | 09.29.08
Nathan said:
“The VP position or Presidents position is not something that you get on the job training at, either you have the experience and can lead or get out.”
My sentiments exactly… so why the **** is Obama on the top of the Democrat ticket?
44. Betty Grable | 09.29.08
Dear 17 J Anthony, If Hiliary was so wonderful, why did the Democrats bypass her in favor of Obama? Duh? What’s with all the name calling anyway. Neither party is squeeky clean. It took 12 attempts and 25 years to get Glass Steagall repealed in 1998. Let the candidates debate the issues if anyone can figure out exactly what the issues are. By the way, with the stock market dropped today, I am voting for the party with the biggest give away program. I will need supplimenting.
46. Amy | 09.29.08
I would have hoped that the first VP nominee of the Republican Party would have been worthy of being selected. After weeks of hiding from any unscripted speaking, now I can see why. She’s a deer in the headlights and way out of her league.
The debates should be interesting. I hope she can muster some semblence of intelligence on stage.
McCain went after the female vote instead of choosing what would be best for the country. I’ve lost respect for him.
47. Eddie | 09.29.08
First BUSH ,now PALIN.Republicans say their a party of change.The only change they have made is from totally corrupt to just a total embarassment.One has to ask one’s self if the Republicans are working for OSAMA BIN LADEN.
48. seattleguy | 09.29.08
Boy oh boy — the Dems/BHO have some real mean folks supporting/working for them. Nasty stuff. Do you really want to win by throwing trash around? Then once BHO gets in power do you really think that things are going to change and everything will be great? Yeah, I guess you folks really want change.. well you will get it if BHO wins and it ain’t gonna be pretty…
49. Andrew R. | 09.29.08
In response to B Hunn - “2. The President does not, and cannot, control the world, or the economy”
I believe that the recent bailout proposal by Paulson and Bernanke was being strongly pushed for by the President. He may not have complete control of what happens to the economy, but he sure does have a big influence on the direction that it goes. The push for the Iraq war also came from the Bush administration.
50. James | 09.29.08
I find the comment funny that the president has nothing to do with the economy, I would look at our defense budget, Trade policy, tax structure etc. And then have the b-a-l-l-s to say that he is defending our country, from who exactly a country that cannot even effectivly attack it’s neighbor, strong argument, I could sware that Iraq was coming to get us. Way to feed into that ******* belief. Go whitey…..
51. Uncle Sam | 09.29.08
Yes, there is going to be a revolution in this country and it will be between the conservative extremist and the level headed liberals and guess what, the level headed liberals will save this country from self destruction.
52. Matt | 09.29.08
Maybe a Sarah Palin presidency following a McCain health “event,” would be a great thing for the world at large - it would finally discredit once and for all the Republican brand and show the GOP for what it is to the American people - an ongoing criminal conspiracy; corrupt, fear mongering, race baiting, religion grifting, bigoted creeps.
53. The Hammer | 09.29.08
Sorry to say, but Palin is dumber than Bush. Her asinine answers from her recent interviews proved that. Even a person not interested in politics with no knowledge of who Palin is would have come away and thought the same. She would make the U.S.A look like a laughing stock the world over if she was ever a V.P.
54. R. Williams | 09.29.08
How people can even begin to blame John McCain for our current economic problems is beyond me and how this situation seems to give Obama greater credibility is laughable. At least John McCain is still doing his job as a Senator while Obama continues to campaign. People need to quit listening to the news and do a little research for themselves, the internet is a great source. For instance, what has Obama done for his country or State as a Senator? What makes him any more qualified than Sara Palin? At least she has actually CHANGED some things in her State! The American public has been brainwashed, why people dont step back and look at actual performance of thier cnadidate is beyond me?
55. g.vejo | 09.29.08
I am an OLD, lifelong Republican, who was around during the last Depression.
The similarities between this administration and Hoover’s is remarkable. Contrary to some of the comments posted here, the President and his administration, have a great deal to do with the rise and fall of the market.
For some time, the GOP has pushed for deregulation on all fronts. In the past
10 years, the GOP has had control of both Houses for 8 years, but still wields a heavy hammer when it comes to legislation that it doesn’t like, often blocking passage. Just as in Hoover’s case, this President and the Neo-Cons have repeatedly said that the Economy is sound, when most of the ‘enlightened’ world has said differently. Check the value of the dollar and when it started going into the cellar. Just as with Hoover, we need a complete change and, I am sorry, but it is not going to come from McCain.
56. cyoung | 09.29.08
Tobias, I sure hope you are not representative of Obama’s supporters. You are being arrogant and petty. American’s need to pull together, have meaningful dialog and learn to respect the viewpoints of others. I respect your right to babble meaningless and mean spirited opinion but ask if you are trying to fix our nation’s problems or keep stirring the pot?
57. ctzn 4 swmsuit comp | 09.29.08
The swimsuit competition could be closer than you think.
Depends on if Biden’s suit selection ( i.e. speedo, thong etc.).
and if he gets all oiled-up.
58. Sebastian | 09.29.08
I just read the title of this article. Ha heh heh hee hee tee hee ha ha hardy har har lol rofl and HA!
59. The Hammer | 09.29.08
“our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of,” and that “we have trade missions.”
“As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska.”
What kind of F’n trade missions? ***?
Why would Putin fly over Alaska to get to the U.S. Doesn’t even make sense? ***?
This is your V.P. candidtate. As asinine and funny as these comments are, it’s not funny the fact that this person will be sitting next to the President. Sad…..just sad…….
60. mikes | 09.29.08
Wow, Sarah Palin was the best the republicans could do. Now that’s real bragging!
61. jA | 09.29.08
It is amazing to watch Repubs on this blog talk about Obama. They have nothing material to offer except stupid half-witted comments. This is a man who went to the top academic institutions in America. He is classy, is a great orator, is a good family man. People should vote based on issues, and on character/principles.
Unfortunately for you GOPers, all you can do is try to sully him with retard points. I don’t think you guys know enough about how to pick a Pres. — only that he needs to be a white gun-toting, redneck/hillbilly who will shoot first and then find out later if that was his cousin he just did. What does McCain offer? He is a philanderer, a uncontrolled hothead, stupid (graduated almost last in some retard university), and is almost in the grave (senile, and has lots of medical problems).
Despite these points, our GOP hillbillies compatriots will see the whiteness of his skin and the gun-toting dumbo that he is and start jumping for joy. Clearly, they say, he is one of us…… too stupid to know his own limits and unpredictable and crazy enough to pick a duffer bimbo for a running mate. The senility is getting worse by the minute…..
62. Alexandra | 09.29.08
Reality Check: McCain did not pick Palin for her intellect. He picked her to (1) bring in the conservative right, and (2) bring Hillary Clinton’s women supporters on board. He succeeded re: #1, but seriously underestimated the intelligence of Clinton supporters. As for Palin herself, c’mon — this woman took 6 years and 4 different colleges (having flunked out of one) to get a bachelor’s degree. Two years ago, she stated a goal of wanting to be President someday. Now, I don’t know about you, but if I wanted to be President someday, I might have started studying (or as she would say, “gettin to studyin’ ” ) some of the issues, perhaps even the Bush Doctrine. The woman is not dumb, just intellectually lazy and completely lacking in curiosity. And those are incredibly dangerous traits in any national leader.
63. Libertarian Woman | 09.29.08
I agree true Libertarian.
If 0bama loses, he will challenge it and all **** will break lose.
His community organization experiance was all centered around ACORN.
Google that and out two and two together.
64. Jimmy Tango | 09.29.08
When Democrats whine in chorus my ears bleed.
Democratic parents rob children of the tools necessary for a successful life, tell them of my disappointment.
65. pearson | 09.29.08
So if Palin is successful in her debate it is only because she has crammed information like an exam, dont you think that Biden is boning up too?
66. KS in FL | 09.29.08
“Job” said above,
“All the hungry liberal vultures are hovering over Palin waiting for her to collapse but wouldn’t dare dive in for the red meat. When your fake savior is exposed by 57 states in November, don’t cry and threaten to leave this county like Moore – DO IT we don’t want you liberals to ruin this country. Go to Germany they love to hear your rant.”
Hey Job, the last I heard there were 50 states in this country, not 57!
This whole Palin thing has inspired me to come up with a new wacky definition:
Pal-in-tol’-o-gy: The pseudo-science of digging political skeletons from the closet. (Skeletons may not be older than 6,000 years, though! 
Go Obama/Biden ‘08!
67. sam | 09.29.08
Heath How can the Demorcrates do anything when you have people like Mitch McCONNEL OF KENTUCKY blocking every thing they try to accomplish. Get rid of McConnel and things can happen.
69. Informed | 09.29.08
What a bunch of ill-informed Democratic talking heads this group is. The source of this economic mess can be traced directly to Bill Clinton and the easing of credit by Fannie Mae. Just check the number one rag of the Dems the NY Times Sept 30, 1999. It is with the same democratic short sightedness you blame Bush just because he is the one in office when the crisis hits and as good democrats you wait for the party leadership to tell you who to blame instead of getting off their lazy a** and do the research. You all treat the election like a football game, rah, rah, rah go team. You should be absolutely ashamed of your nominee just on experience alone. Although, there are other factors its not my job to try and teach the mentally challenged.
70. Gary | 09.29.08
Mike…I think you may be an expert on “stupid”,considering your math abilities.You may need to go back to the second grade:) Gov Palin was born Feb 1964. If you’re about 8 years old going into the second grade, that would be in about 1972. Biden began his Senate career in 1972. He was born Nov 1942…so he is now 65 years old and Gov Palin is 44. You were correct about one thing though: Stupid is as stupid does.
Now, Heath…seems to be correct about everything!
71. Nathan | 09.29.08
oh you poor poor poor republicans, still having hope for your beloved moose hunter. When will you people wake up and realize that your party has let this country and the American people down, well not all American people, the rich and elite are doing quite well where us poor and middle class and struggling more than ever.
Thank you from someone who isnt rich. I will enjoy watching Obama’s acceptance speech and also watching Palin take her sorry butt back to Alaska where she belongs.
72. Ahwatukee T | 09.29.08
Why is it that leftists frequently dismiss their opponents as “stupid?” I suspect that it’s because they really can’t defend their positions on merit.
73. Get Ready | 09.29.08
Its over folks, the only question is will it be a landslide? I think so, and a mandate is absolutely needed here. Their are NO republicans, NO democrats, those are parties, not people. The people, you and me, Americans, need to support this new President and give him every opportunity to fulfill our requirements of which are many and at a very critical juncture in our country’s history and our childrens future. Come what may, lets be true Americans and lets demand that our elective representatives vote for us, not the special interest.
Don’t just pull the lever and say we have done our part, were going to have to raise cane for the next four years to be sure these politicians follow the will of the people, not some lobbyist.
I pray we all will have the strength to do that for our country and our children.
74. independent here | 09.29.08
I’ve got a question for both candidates.
Biden: Why if you are so for the middle class did you vote for the bankruptcy overhall that was a bill actually written by the financial industry, the industry we now have to bail out with our tax dollars. Is bankruptcy not suitable for them?
Palin: By charging rape victims for their “rape kit” used for dna detection in rape investigations, don’t you feel that you might be encouraging rape victims to not report the crime. Are you so pro-life that you feel that if a woman gets raped it really is her problem or something she did to ask for it?
75. John | 09.29.08
Its amazing how many people think Sarah Palin is a moron. Whoever thinks that, has a real anger issue or they are scared to death of Ms. Palin’s potential. It is a sad day for America when we feel the only way to disagree with someone is to rip their intelligence or their looks or whatever. The funny thing is, it seems to be the Democrats that have a handle on all the hate comments. Is it because they cannot come up with anything actually intelligent to say, and moron is the one word they do know how to spell?
76. SarahOrParis | 09.29.08
Who would be a better VP choice, Sarah Palin or Paris Hilton? I have seen both Paris in her tv shows and Sarah’s scripted speeches and interviews. Hands down Paris beats Sarah in intelligence, honesty, and just being herself. Listening to Sarah I find Paris so much more intelligent in her interviews. Paris also speaks her mind, honestly - unlike Sarah who always gives scripted answers and more importantly blantantly lies.
A direct quote from one of Sarah’s early supporter, a conservative columnist.
She says…’If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.’
This says it all. Vote Obama08.
77. kimmy | 09.29.08
Sara adds spice to this season! Im glad to see some fresh faces in the race.
If she were a democrate we would not see so much meaness toward her.
Shes great! Im tired of everyone tearing each other down! Lets all work together. Kimmy Happynewz com
78. Helle | 09.29.08
Ed, you´re a laugh. (sorry, a giggle!) Give us a freakin´break. You and Mark (32) seem to take some maso-kick exposing your stupidity. I see why you would vote for that lame crackpot and imbecile mrs. Pale of Alaska.
80. allie | 09.29.08
Sarah actually did well in her debates for Governor , so i think she will be much better than she’s been in her interviews. Don’t worry
81. Thirdrail1 | 09.29.08
I love Palin. She’s not an idiot just because people take her too seriously to get her jokes. I thought the 2nd grade comment was priceless.
And yes, they need to just let her be her crazy self. I couldn’t care less about the three other stiffs. I’m voting this year because they’ve got a witch hunting secessionist in the mix. Sarah Palin is really cool.
Go Sarah! And remember, Biden spits when he arm wrestles.
82. shartmaster | 09.29.08
I cant wait for McCain to win. What will all the Obama-bots have to do then.
83. allie | 09.29.08
“I think it might be better to have a vice president getting OJT than a president getting on the job training….Have you forgotten that barack hussein obama has never done anything……except tell you what you want to hear…..wake up you ……” - ed
i second that.
84. marley | 09.29.08
Job- Go to Germany? Huh?
Palin is useless tool employed to drive a wedge between women and Obama. When repubs realized you can’t polish the turd that Palin turned out to be they suspend their campaign. The old man acts like an erratic senile maverick who should be given a nurse and a sunny window to look out.
Do you really think Palin was following the senate speakers on CSPAN when she was in 2nd grade? Gimme a break, all she has is stupid one liners that get the idiocracy that is her base fired up. Rent that movie, Idiocracy and see where Palin will take us.
You mention Biden as a career politic, what is McCain? They’re both Washington insiders by your definition, except McCain has 7 houses and Biden took the train home every night.
85. Limbaugh’s Diabetes | 09.29.08
Palin is a female GWB - dumb as a rock, but with the kind of hick accent that appeals to the uneducated, sheep-like masses. Frankly, I’d love for she and McCain to win the election. Then we can take the 700 billion we were going to spend on the Wall Street bailout and buy a giant, solid gold tombstone to place at the head of the Republican Party’s grave. Though we might want to engrave it in Chinese since that’s who the Republicans have sold our country to over the last 8 years…
86. lal | 09.29.08
Obama never accomplished anything. All the experience he had was run for office. Why couldn’t he volunteer like the rest of us into the Marines or Army. He saved all of his time on the good life and that’s how he is able to run so young for office. He hasn’t put in his hours. If Palin is one heart beat away, he is one vote away from Presidency. Why doesn’t people talk about that? He is going to destroy this nation and it is scary to see his associations with domestic terrorists like Ayers who can control the policy if he wins.
87. confusia | 09.29.08
no. i think to question sarah palin’s intelligence would be to underestimate her ability to appeal. palin may seem uninformed at times but i don’t think she is stupid. further, it should be mentioned that she was also underestimated (apparently), in debates in alaska and came from behind to win.
if there is one think sarah palin is good at it is communicating. she has a style that appeals to many. the fact that style may be lacking in content (sometimes, as has been recently observed, egregiously so) does not necessarily undermine her ability to be effective. perhaps time will tell on just how much style will win out over substance.
88. steve | 09.29.08
True Lib, I hope there is a revolution in this country. We need a good wake up call. And for those idiots that love to call Obama by his middle name, why not just come right out and admit you are racist? It shows, but the only thing missing is your open admission. Why not? Most of your postings are anonymous, right? Isn’t that why you spew the drivel? You are only showing the world that some Americans are incredibly intolerant. Isn’t that how Hitler came to power?
89. Ray | 09.29.08
Greedy “intelligent” ideologues with degrees from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford etc. got us in this mess.
Having someone like Sarah Palin around makes them feel less special.
90. sinbad | 09.29.08
Not much said by Palin about the bailout bill failure. McCain blamed Obama for the failed vote today. I don’t understand how that is possible considering that 60% of Dems voted for the bill. It was the Republicans who dominated the nay vote. I am not opposed to the nay vote. Just the idea or notion that a Republican running for President would blame a democratic candidate when his own party failed him. Maybe the Republican party is not happy with being so fiscally irresponsible. But their own candidate for President backed it and went to “save the country” by supporting it. Looks like trouble for Republicans.
92. Joee | 09.29.08
The “Taliban” Republican party is at it again; they just voted against the bail-out and then with a straight face blame the Democrates! Unbelievable!! Check the House votes, it was broadcast for every one to see. Whoever said “Country First?”
93. Marross | 09.29.08
Admittedly Palin is not particularly articulate, however she hasn’t had several years in the Senate learning the art of BS. Now Obama-there’s a guy who can sling it with the best of them! He has managed to convince half of the country that he can change the entire face of government, although he didn’t accomplish anything in his brief time as a U.S. senator. In fact, he never bothered to show up for committee meetings - even the one’s he supposedly chaired. Before that he was using poor Blacks in south Chicago to grease his rise in the corrupt Democratic machine. Face it. We lost the only really intelligent, hardworking and knowledgeable candidate when Hillary Clinton was defeated by a combination of media bias and Obamite terror tactics at the caucuses (although her own campaign people didn’t help).
94. JohnnyAZ | 09.29.08
The partisanship is the real problem here. You are never going to convince 49% of the country that the other candidate is the correct choice. Therefore we are stuck with an election that, once again, will go down to the wire and leave half the country unsatisfied. Like we have to completely overhaul the whole banking and loans system we also need to overhaul the whole election process. Personally with the mess we are in now it is time for everyone to sit around the same table and start being honest instead of throwing jabs at the other side and trying to get their own slice of the trillions being thrown around in war contracts and bail outs. The decline of the United States is nigh.
96. tashekor | 09.29.08
Please, please let Gov. Palin be herself. I’m sure the American People will be reassured by extra sprinklings of “doggones” and “fixin’s” and “shaking things up” in a week that started with a 700 point dive in the Dow. Just being herself will doubtless help the common people understand how the bailout bill’s failure was all the Democrats fault when it was the Republicans who voted against it. And it’s only Monday.
97. RJ Johnson | 09.29.08
Many of you are in love with Obama…it is much like 1992 when Bill Clinton showed up. He disgraced the office. Liberals get so emotional it is pathetic.
98. Nomo Stew | 09.29.08
Over the last 60 years, the economy has grown twice as fast during Democratic administrations as during Republican administrations. Palin is exhibit D as to why. It takes brains to manage the economy. Clinton and his team faced a situation much like this in the late 90s. Most people do not realize this because they knew how to handle it. The executive branch has a strong role in fiscal management - starting with not asking for and not accepting deficit spending. Tell you what. Let’s just try Democrats for a few years. If it doesn’t work out, at least it was worth a try compared to where the Republicans have landed us. Everybody said, before the fact, that Clinton’s policies would wreck the economy. The opposite happened. Trying the same thing again is our best shot. Obama should announce Bill as his Secretary of the Treasury and put him on the case right now.
99. Dennis | 09.29.08
Okay, time to educate a few liberals. First off, note, I’m from Massachusetts, the bastion of liberalism. With a crashing economy. With a construction project with so much graft and corruption in it, it’s a joke (the Big Dig).
Obama says he’ll only raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans. Exclude pro athletes and the big dogs in public companies, and you’re talking about small business owners, by and large, who have closely held corporations and whose business tax is paid on their personal return. First off, companies do not pay taxes - individuals do. Companies pass it on in the form of costs. So, expect the cost of goods and services to increase, which means that the cost of living goes up. Courtesy of Obama-nomics.
Second, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd pushed for Fannie & Freddie to accept subprime mortgages which got us to this place in the first place.
Third, for all those voting for Obama, why are you voting for him? On his record of accomplishments. It doesn’t exist. Because he can give a speech? I’m not saying he’s like this guy, but Hitler could give a speech, that alone does not qualify someone. On his experience? Okay, let me get this straight. You can’t operate on a patient unless you have had serious schooling and training and experience, all to save ONE life. Now, we’re going to put someone in office who has exactly NO EXPERIENCE? Why? I can only conclude because people are not thinking this through in the cold light of day. Oh, and by the way, did you notice Bush’s approval ratings went down after the do-nothing Dem’s came into controlling the house and Senate, and did absolutely nothing with that?
Obama’s a modern-day Jimmy Carter, only much, much worse. At least Carter was a governor.
100. jon | 09.29.08
With Palin, it’s not about confidence. It’s just about lack of curiosity, and knowledge.
For that reason, I suspect all she’ll do in the debate, is what she’s good at… attacking Sen Obama, and making snotty comments, like, “I’ve never met him. I’ve been hearing about his Senate speeches since I was in, like, the second grade.”
GOP followers love that stuff, but, Undecideds are looking for answers… what specifically McCain will do, etc.
All Biden has to do, is correct any lies Palin states, and step back & let Palin hang herself, if she’s asked any specific questions.
I suspect it will end a *tie,* if Palin shows up. And the GOPers will go crazy with her great *zingers.* But, in the end, she’s not going to bring many undecideds into the McCain fold - - they want answers.
101. EyesWideOpen | 09.29.08
Can you imagine this.
What if McCain wins the election and then dies during his term (really given how old he is, its a real possiblity).
SARAH PALIN WOULD BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!
LOLOLOLOL
We truly are a country of morons. I used to like McCain too, but Palin and his recent comments on the economy are very disturbing.
102. Rob | 09.29.08
May the smarter and toughest bulldog win. Of course Biden will get physical if Palin turns up the heat. Maybe he will punch her in nose like a real liberal.
103. Ned Pepper | 09.29.08
With all the insults thrown at Sarah Palin by Democrats it just makes me more confident that McCain made the right choice.
Anyone that can get a Liberal that mad has got to the right choice. It’s like going to the Zoo and watching Monkeys fight over a Peanut.
Hypocrisy: The defining characteristic of a Liberal Democrat.
Look on the bright side, when the McCain/Palin ticket wins this November maybe you can look forward to a Michael Moore or Oliver Stone movie about it.
104. Rod | 09.29.08
Dems may have been in control for the last 2 years, but they only control the house and Senate by slim margin, which requires them to work very hard with the Republicans to get anything done. The Republicans on the other hand did not need the Dems at all and that is why Bush go his way for the first six years.
105. 99.7 sd | 09.29.08
I’m really looking forward to seeing the debate. I’ve looked and looked for her 1984 answers to the Miss Alaska contest questions but can’t find it - oh, it doesn’t matter - her answers so far have been close enough to what I would expect. The thing is that with her #1 in bad health and him being the oldest candidate ever; well look at the actuarial tables: Can he actually live four more years, or is this election really Obama vs Palin? Personally, I think she’s cute as a button… and just as smart. Senator McCain might be OK as a president - oh **** we’ve had really bad presidents before - but none of them were just plain stupid (Palin thinks Earth was created 6000 years ago and man was around at the same time as dinosaurs). Stupid isn’t a good recommendation and McCain picking stupid doesn’t look good on him. He should drop her NOW and pick someone smart.
106. 99.7 sd | 09.29.08
I’m really looking forward to seeing the debate. I’ve looked and looked for her 1984 answers to the Miss Alaska contest questions but can’t find it - oh, it doesn’t matter - her answers so far have been close enough to what I would expect. The thing is that with her #1 in bad health and him being the oldest candidate ever; well look at the actuarial tables: Can he actually live four more years, or is this election really Obama vs Palin? Personally, I think she’s cute as a button… and just as smart. Senator McCain might be OK as a president - oh **** we’ve had really bad presidents before - but none of them were just plain stupid (Palin thinks Earth was created 6000 years ago and man was around at the same time as dinosaurs). Stupid isn’t a good recommendation and McCain picking stupid doesn’t look good on him. He should drop her NOW and pick someone smart.
108. Rocket Scientist | 09.29.08
The appeal of McCain’s Trophy VP is thankfully winding down. We’ve already had 7 and a half years of a so-called “common folk” in the White House with Bush and look how that’s turned out. We need intelligence in the White House, not someone who puts on a good “folksy” act. If I wanted that I’d watch reruns of Hee-Haw.
110. steve | 09.29.08
John wrote:
“Its amazing how many people think Sarah Palin is a moron. Whoever thinks that, has a real anger issue or they are scared to death of Ms. Palin’s potential. It is a sad day for America when we feel the only way to disagree with someone is to rip their intelligence or their looks or whatever. The funny thing is, it seems to be the Democrats that have a handle on all the hate comments. Is it because they cannot come up with anything actually intelligent to say, and moron is the one word they do know how to spell?”
No, actually John, if you look through many posts, I would say it’s pretty equal hate here. And the spelling is equally poor. I think it’s more an indication of how polarized we have become, especially worse since the “Uniter” came to office.
And I can’t speak for everyone, but I can say I am not afraid of Palin’s POTENTIAL–I am am afraid of her ignorance NOW.
111. Lulu | 09.29.08
Did anyone else hear that the McCain camp demanded that they dumb the v.p. debate down, so to speak. Apparently, the McCain camp has demanded that there be less response time for questions and there will be no actual debating between the candidates. I read this today and I am not surprised. If I am wrong then I am wrong. If this is true then I understand why she is so ready for the debate. She will have little time to say anything or even go one on one with Biden. How sad. Also it doesn’t really come off well when you mock someone else’s age when your running mate is ten years older than your opponent. It’s a little obnoxious and silly
112. sharon | 09.29.08
I want a leader to LEAD, be MORE than I am - not the “same as”. I want a political candidate to be over qualified for the position. I want to be impressed by their thought process and political savvy. Palin is absolutely underwhelming except when it comes to delivering her lines. I think Sarah has more in common with Tina Fey’s gift toward acting than she’ll ever hope to have in understanding politics and qualifying as a true leader like the other candidates in this race. I’m shocked that she is the best woman that the Republicans could drum up.
113. Ivan | 09.29.08
Please keep bashing and underestimating Palin. It will be your downfall. Your ideas can’t win and that will be clear the more you are forced to articulate them.
Morgage crisis? Might it have something to do with government mandated loans to people who can’t afford them? That was a CLINTON policy. A democrat chairs the senate banking committee (who takes money and sweetheart loans from banking industry lobbyists) and the top three receivers of money from Fannie and Freddie? Said chairman, John Kerry and Barack Hussein Obama. Open your eyes … or don’t and keep attacking Palin. Obama is gearing up to pull a John Kerry even better than he did.
114. shannon | 09.29.08
I think my friend, a South African pastor, put it best: “She’s a lovely bit of eye candy, but wow, that woman is crazy!”
The rest of the world is counting on us not to mess this up. There is more hopefulness and goodwill towards the US at the prospect of an Obama presidency than there has been in the past 8 years; people will hear my American accent and walk up to tell me that this is what inspires them about the US, that we are able to correct course when we veer too far and that we can produce a Barack Obama after a GWB. Sadly, some of the comments I’ve read on here confirm what I tell these people: not to get their hopes up, and that you can never go wrong underestimating the intelligence of a country that kept “The Incredible Hulk” on the air for five seasons.
115. tommyd | 09.29.08
If there is a God, she will make a complete and utter fool of herself during the debate, thus ending McCain and the conservative’s dreams of war, greed and power. At least for four years.
116. Josephine Reske | 09.29.08
I’m surprised that Palin brings up being in second grade when Biden was elected. Doesn’t that leave a WIDE opening for someone to bring up that was the same year that Biden (then 15 years younger than Palin is now) lost his wife and daughter, and nearly both his sons in a terrible automobile accident? It just seems odd to me to want to remind the public of that terrible grief he bore and the way he made that trip home every single night to be with his sons.
117. BRIAN | 09.29.08
Governor Palin has 16 years of political experience. Granted, 14 of these 16 years were local and state politics; however, these were more bloodier and tougher than most federal positions. She took on corrupt members of her own political party, cut a deal that gave Alaskans more revenue from the oil companies, and signed a natural gas pipeline for the lower 48 states. She also stood up against the envirowackos in the EPA when they tried to make the polar bear an “endangered species” and opposes the global warming scam. No wonder liberals are scared ****less of her.
The comments on this board against Palin are myopic and irrational. Palin will do an excellent job consuming Biden, just like an Alaskan grizzly chows down a helpless salmon that swims upstream.
118. George | 09.29.08
I am amazed by people who call a woman who is the Governor of the largest and most natural resource rich state in the union a moron or stupid. What have they done to make a footprint in this world that’s not made of carbon? I can see perhaps to say she is not VP ready as I feel Obama is not P ready but to call her stupid shows the low IQ of the commenter’s who cannot verbalize anything better that “What a moron, Dude”!
119. GN | 09.29.08
I think Uncle Sam above about sums up the Democrat’s typical response to any problem. Wait for some mytical miracle person to come along and save the day. “Level headed liberal?” Please, give me a break.
121. A Student | 09.29.08
To KS in FL
If im not mistaken Job was refering to a statement by obama stating “I hope all 57 states will support me”, now before you critsize someone, know what your talking about please.
122. Big Mike | 09.29.08
Most of the folks here really seem to want Obama my question is why ? why would you elect a Muslim when the war on terror is all about Muslim ? have any of you ever been to Indoneisa ? what about this dude he will not even wear an American flag pin what the f&*(() is up with that come on vote for the right one Mcain and Palin at least they are TRUE americans !!! believe in AMERICA BELIVE IN THEM !
123. Joee | 09.29.08
The “hypocritical” Republican machine is at it again, but folks, the intelligence of the people have awoken, considering the grave mess that this administration has put us in.
1. Military experience was a non-issue when Bush was running, considering they sabotaged John Kerry, a real hero. Al of a sudden it’s important because Macain is running.
2. Making fun of Obama that he has no experience, considering that he was a legislator for 11+ years and will be a Senator for 4 years. Palin shows up from moose hunting from met capital…then all of a sudden, experience is not a factor, but “executive” experience…managing a town of 6500 people! The Univ i attended had 5x more students!
3. Teenage pregnancy…What you say? Can you imagine what these “Taliban” pin heads would say if Obama’s daughter were pregnant?
4. They hate regulation as long as they are making money, but want to socialize debt when their ill gotten loot is is danger!
I could go on and on…Please Vote wisely for Country. Noone in their right mind can say that this country is better off since Bush took office about 8 years ago. Be HONEST with your conscience…if you have one.
124. Ivan | 09.29.08
>Palin thinks Earth was created 6000 years ago and man was around at the same >time as dinosaurs)
How about you stop spreading lies now? This isn’t true despite how many times you read it over at Ariana Huffington’s site. It shows how pathetic you are relying on it as proof.
Your side thinks that the earth is heating up because of carbon dioxide even though the warming preceded the gas. Your side preserves a mother’s right to choose death for children if she doesn’t want them but not the execution of murderers. Democrats, many are too busy nuancing to get their heads out of their *****.
125. randolph | 09.29.08
“Congress HAS passed a lot of really good legislation in the last 2 years. Like the largest expansion of GI benefits since the end of WWII. And the first increase in the min wage in many many years. Also ethics reforms. The big problem in the Congress is the Republicans. They tried and failed to block the GI benefits and tried and failed to block the minimum wage increase. However there are just enough in the Senate to stifle passage of laws that require 60 votes to pass!!!!! Ergo lo-approval is still the Republicans fault. Duh!”
Would it not be the Democrats fault for the previous 8 years of legislation not making it through?
126. Wily Trax | 09.29.08
Let’s just hope she doesn’t try to fix that glass ceiling with all the cracks in it.
127. Jon | 09.29.08
Is there some reason Obama doesn’t bring up McCain’s disgrace in the Keating 5 Scandal? It’s as though everyone has decided that heroism 40 years ago is more important than public treachery and deceit 20 years ago. At the very least, his illegal actions show serious judgment flaws. Why isn’t his story told?
128. LOL | 09.29.08
palin - [pā-lin] v. - 1.To prove so deficient as to be ineffective. 2.To be unsuccessful. 3.To disappoint or prove to be undependable. 4.An absolute failure. slang - a sarah or a paling, etc. To fail miserably beyond hope - To danquayle at something.
129. A Student | 09.29.08
@Josephine
Here is an intresting fact you wanna know who foots the 200+ dollars for Biden… oh yeah the tax payer. As it is because he is not provided with a govermental car the goverment takes care of the bill. Now lets do the math. He’s been riding the train every day for 35 years. That is 365*35= 12775, ok now we take that number and multiply that by 200. So its 12775*200 that is 2,555,000 So lets say that we have footed. about 2,000,000 dollars for bidens “campaign for the train”. Please no more stupid comments.
130. Sandra S | 09.29.08
OK, so I’m willing to check out the dog and pony show Thursday. Palin will have something to remember when she goes back to Alaska to report, Hey Dudes, I did my best by taking on the Washington dudes, and you get me back dudes. But it’s hard for me to settle for Gov. after I’ve experienced such adoration from my fans, and met people at the UN, and got to fly on planes and all, and actually debated a real Senator, so I am resigning from the Governorship and accepting an offer from Hollywood to play myself on SNL, and other movies. That’s what I’ve wanted all along.
OK, so let’s get on with the election so that President Obama can start working on putting the pieces back together.
Country first! American for Obama.
132. ray reyns | 09.29.08
The Brilliance of Sarah Palin on the economy and on education.
two recent quotes:
on the bailout:
“That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, we’re ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh — it’s got to be all about job creation too. Shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade, we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, um, scary thing, but 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.”
on education:
“I personally believe that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because some… people out there in our nation that don’t have maps, and I believe that our education, like such, as in South Africa and Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should… our education over here in the U.S., should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future.., for our…”
133. Sandra S | 09.29.08
Hey Big Mike,
Did you come out of the woods with your canned food and gun just to drop that little lie, or are you just on drugs.
134. David | 09.29.08
Everyone questions Palin’s experience, what about Obama’s? He is running for President, not VP and he has no more experience than she does. What about his ties to ACORN or with William Ayers? Do some research, don’t believe what you read in the media.
It’s a little late to be putting blame on anyone for the mess this country is in. But, if you want to point a finger, go back to Jimmy Carter’s and his push for the Community Reinvestment Act, or Clinton’s record regarding sub-prime lending. Maybe blame Greenspan for keeping interest rates low.
This country’s problems can be traced back to liberal idiots that forget what this country is based on. Everyone here has the opportunity to acquire wealth, it’s called hard work! We don’t need more government or one that wants to “spread the wealth”. Get off your butt and get a job!
I would rather have Palin as VP any day, before Obama as President pushing his Socialist agenda!
135. Michael Kennedy | 09.29.08
That headline of “bring it on” is a perfect example of how ridiculous of a candidate she truly is. These are the most serious times of our generation and Palin’s battle cry sounds like she is headed to a cheerleader competition not a Vice Presidential debate. Having someone that childish and hyperbolistic is a tremendous set back to women in government. Will the serious candidates please send the groupies out of the room for this discussion please.
136. Farrow | 09.29.08
If the women of this country are smart they will back Palin all the way,this is the first door open for them to gain egual statis,and this is a man talking.
Farrow
138. A Student | 09.29.08
Sandra its your stupid comments that make me lose faith in americans. Now when you can come up with a legitimate reason why Palin isnt a good canidate please id be more then willing to show you all the reasons she would be.
139. Anonymous | 09.29.08
Wow you republicans are morons, still blaming Clinton? Look, you had EIGHT YEARS to change any of the policies that were put in place during his presidency. The fact is you did nothing but pretend everything was fine while the rest of the world was laughing at the US economy and its pretend greatness.
140. DougH | 09.29.08
I don’t think Sarah is a moron. I just think she’s been focused on the state of Alaska; as she should as their governor. The only problem is the rest of the country needs a potential national leader. If she had been paying attention, perhaps to who Hamas is or perhaps the politics of Gaza, or even the Bush Doctrine, she’d be up to speed.
Alaska’s problems are pretty much unique to Alaska. My county (Dekalb County, Georgia) has a population of 760,000. The entire state of Alaska has little more than 600,000. The city of Altanta has over 4 million citizens. That’s not your typical state.
Folks who watch CSPAN everyday seem to know more that her. It’s not that she’s dumb, she has just been preoccupied with other things. Unfortunately, those things don’t translate very well to national politics.
141. belle | 09.29.08
How is the 2nd grade comment “priceless?” Just when I start feeling sorry for Palin for being in way over her head, she talks trash again, much like her snotty RNC convention speech. It is always better to win against a cocky snob like Palin than an opponent who is gracious. So, on Friday morning we can all look back on her arrogance and say, “Hey, she deserves this (referring to the fun we are making of her)like she deserves the SNL satire.”
I’m just a nice person, so sympathy for her comes naturally.
142. Yeah | 09.29.08
“If the women of this country are smart they will back Palin all the way,this is the first door open for them to gain egual statis,and this is a man talking.
Farrow”
How pathetic and patronizing to suggest that women will back this poor excuse Palin just because she is of the same sex. As in post #123 above, your comments were a total palin. You were danquayling it until now, but you have hit a new low, a palin. A typical male, a palin.
143. HUH? | 09.29.08
I cannot wait until she pulls that “I’ll get back to ya” **** at the debate. What a joke. “Doctrine”–not even in her vocabulary. And yes, to all you mindless repubs out there, I do feel threatened by Palin…she threatens our very way of life. Her ignorance is a weapon held at our very throats.
144. reader | 09.29.08
if you are concerned about how the election will affect the economy, remember, the president does not have primary control over it. your interest is better served by writing your congressman the next time a fed chairman or treasury secretary is up for appointment.
146. Neal | 09.29.08
Isn’t it time to stop all this public redicule of the intelligence and capabilities of someone just because they decided to run for political office? I’ve been doing it for nearly eight years and I don’t don’t think I can stand having to do it for another four, so please vote Obama.
147. Conky | 09.29.08
I believe Sarah can handle the Chia-head Biden with very little trouble. He will be busy trying to quote Roosevelt’s TV appearance on Black Friday 1929 before he was even President, what an idiot.
148. OHOHOH!!! | 09.29.08
The Ford MAVERICK was an unfortunate product, even a danquayle for Ford, but the Pinto was surely a palin by comparison.
Ref. post #123 above, LOLOL!
149. Stelwagen | 09.29.08
Being stupid is milking that joke about seeing Russia from Alaska….
Most of you keep stomping Sarah Palin, because deep down you’re scared stiff that somehow the impossible might happen: Obama losing the whole thing….
151. Joe W | 09.29.08
To: 2. Heath | 09.29.08
“I get the biggest kick out of ill informed people who actually believe that the economy is the primary responsibility of the President of the United States. It is not.”
Response:
The fall of the Soviet Empire was caused by their horrific economy steeped in corruption and cronyism (sound familiar).
Roosevelt’s Economic leadership brought America out of the first depression.
Our great manufacturing capacity (Economy) is given as a major factor in both world war triumphs.
Ancient Rome’s economy was the world standard for the thousand years they ruled.
“It’s the economy stupid” (not directed at you) was the theme of Clinton’s getting elected.
This is only a few quickly chosen examples.
152. Sicofitall | 09.29.08
There are some of that see Sarah as a fresh face to politics. We need more people in office with less political education behind them. We dont seem to get alot of new ideas in DC, just doing the same things and expect a different result. I am for whoever I think will leave this country a better place than when they took office. I think Sarah has done that for her state, who among us can say that?
153. Tomion | 09.29.08
After a day that this economic crisis has turned bleaker and more desperate than ever there’s only one thing for Mccain to do.
He needs to suspend his campaign again.
In the interest of the country.
154. xyz01 | 09.29.08
I beleive that Palin’s team is loading her up with every negative aspect of Biden they can come up with about. She will spend the entire debate doing a brain dump on what she’s learn and will not answer any of the questions asked.
155. Hack Job | 09.29.08
There are two types of republicans, the wealthy white and the NASCAR crowd. Let’s hope there is a race on November 4th. The uneducated voters are going to be the downfall of this country. Get smart and get educated.
Obama/Biden ‘08
156. Laurie | 09.29.08
Palin’s NOT the problem - she’s the solution. How else would we have ever known the actual number of completely ignorant backward folk inhabiting this country of ours, destroying the constitution and American credibilty with every move they make?
157. Anthony | 09.29.08
Man, reading these statements really amazes me. Some of you really need to stop posting as what you have to say is either rehash or stupidity.
First, as others have said go educate yourselves. All of these current housing/financial problems stated at the end of 1993 when Clinton and the Dems enacted the CRA reform. This was a highly regulated effort to provide houses to low income/moderate income families, WHETHER THEY COULD PAY OR NOT.
Now I’m not saying that it’s all the Dems fault but at least we can be sure where it started.
Check out the following, http://www.sundriesshack.com/2008/09/21/the-roots-of-the-subprime-mortgage-mess-have-clinton-all-over-them/
Be sure to follow all the links in the article, including the one that follows here from…
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
Dated Dec. 8, 1993
http://clinton6.nara.gov/1993/12/1993-12-08-briefing-by-bentsen-and-rubin.text.html
Any reasonably thinking person will conclude that gov. REGULATIONS during the early part of the 1990s were INSTRUMENTAL in why we are in the state we are today.
We as Americans need to stop this Rep/Dem biased BS or we are all going to be flushed by greedy CEOs and power hungry politicians from both sides.
158. Palinfan | 09.29.08
I totally agree with those who say if the Dems are slinging this much mud they must be afraid of Palin. If she was really a non-threat, and a moron (like the MSM is trying to make us thing) then why all the mud slinging and name calling? And why are they not praising Joe Biden? Probably because he is an idiot who couldn’t say the right thing if he were reading it on a telepromter.
As for Obama…well if you can judge a person by their friends, then I think Obama is not right for America. If you can sit in a church for 20 YEARS and listen to the pastor say horrible things about our country and not get up and leave, then it is no wonder he says he thinks our country is wrong. How is he going to make it right? By fixing all of us bitter people clinging to our guns, and our God? I am just fine clinging to my guns and my God Mr. Obama, and you will have to take them out of my cold dead hands!
159. A True Libertarian | 09.29.08
hoard your gold, get your silver together, convert all your worthless US dollar cash to hard currency (gold) and wait for the marches on steps of the capital, as they burn down the capital.. and replace something that we have never seen. I’m old enough to remember my grandfather talking about stuffing his beds with gold notes.
You want to get really freaked out — they (the oligarchy who runs this country) know it’s coming READ THIS - http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/index.html
Get a clue folks.. I’m neither GOP or DEM .. I just see the end of the Pax Americana
160. Ivan | 09.29.08
Their are two types of democrats, the poor stupid jealous type and the rich guilty type with blinders on. People who are neither poor or rich enough yet to no longer care are republicans.
-I
Democrats : We supports women’s right to choose as long as she chooses death for her baby
Democrats : We are an inclusive party that supports diverse viewpoints . . . as long as you are at all conservative like that fascist Lieberman we tried to get elected 8 years ago
Democrats : We support free speech as long as you aren’t a conservative because then it is “hate speech”
Democrats : We support racism as long as it is against white males
Democrats : We support freedom of religion as long as it isn’t the religion of 75% of the people
Democrats : We support redistribution of wealth as long as it support things we think are important like music, the arts and anything else most people do but consider a hobby
Democrats : We won’t use the word terrorist because it is hate speech but call everyone we don’t agree with neocon.
Democrats : We think the world must be warming because of a gas that makes plants grow.
Democrats : Despite evidence to the contrary and no warming for 10 years we give the scare monger who popularized Global warming an “oscar”
161. David | 09.29.08
I have to laugh when people regurgitate the “experience” line, as if that is all that is required of a leader. Actually, foremost, a leader needs to lead. After 8 years of Bush, this country needs some inspiration. We aren’t getting it now.
For instance, I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who respects the law less these days because I’m seeing how our so-called leaders don’t give a **** about it. Why should I? Where’s the example?
Maybe Obama doesn’t have the experience as McCain. So what? He’s a smart guy, smart enough to know when he needs help, and try to get good people on your side. He also inspires people, and in case you haven’t noticed, this country needs inspiration; it is sick, very ill.
I’m not talking about heath care but a moral crisis. Bush promised to help unite the country, and we all know how well that worked out. Now there’s so much hate and fear in the air, it gets in your lungs and eyes like L.A. smog.
McCain offers much of the same. Yes, he’s been around more, has more “experience”, but that’s not all there is to being a leader.
162. Palinfan | 09.29.08
to Joe W.
Roosevelt did not take us out of the depression. He was elected in 1932. If his policies were so good, then why did it take our entry into World War 2 to bring our country out of the depression? Shouldn’t his great leadership and policies have ended the depression by at the latest 1934?
163. Andrea | 09.29.08
It has nothing to do with her being herself. She has no clue how to answer questions. She speaks in fragmented sentences that mean nothing.
164. Emil | 09.29.08
McCain/Palin are the answer to this country’s problems because, morally, they’re more grounded. As human beings we are called to do the right thing; and Obama with his ties to the angry left and his immoral stand on issues like live birth abortion (look it up) shows he places little value on human life — so how can he be the answer? He’s Christian only by name, and so is Biden who does not conform to the teachings of Christ or the Catholic Church or which he’s a member.
Let’s do the right thing and elect McCain. A leftist administration, like that of Obama’s would be very dangerous in this world where the Americas are quickly becoming Communist: Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Brazil, Cuba… And Russia already making arm deals with Venezuela? Dangerous. More dangerous than most people realize, and a situation a leftist administration would overlook.
165. Rickler | 09.29.08
Don’t forget who inaugurated the big deregulation trend of the past 30 years: Ronald Reagan. I think we are finally seeing the inevitable, long-term result of Reaganomics.
166. mavisdarling | 09.29.08
Sarah only did well in her governor debates because she more or less understood the Alaskan issues she was talking about.
THIS vice presidential debate is a whole ‘nother ball game, people. Sarah is clueless about national issues; the really complex stuff just sails right over her head. She doesn’t have a clue about economics, so this Wall Street stuff will confuse her. You can’t cram a lifetime of knowledge in an average person’s head in one month.
And whoever it was in a previous post who asked why we would want to elect a MUSLIM? Well good grief, why on Earth would we want to elect a wacked out CHRISTIAN like Sarah? Those loony evangelical Christians are TWICE as bad as any Muslim. It’s the radical fundamentalist Muslims you want to watch out for… and of course Obama has never been one, nor is he now.
BUT don’t forget it’s those narrow-minded, racist, ignorant evangelical CHRISTIANS you want to watch out for TOO. They are the bane of our very existence.
167. John | 09.29.08
I have a prediction. She will have her hair down and there will be a microphone hidden in her ear. I hope they ask her why so many Americans can’t locate the United States on a map.
169. nelda | 09.29.08
Reading the above statements made by you,the public, is very dishearting. Do any of the 75 of you think you would be a better candidate? If so, then why aren’t you a candidate? This is the land of the free. Any of us can study and prepare ourselves to lead the nation if we so choose. To do so is not “stupid”. To critize those willing to lead is stupid. These candidates, all of them, and our nation need our prayers. Can’t we be civil and listen to what all candidates have to offer - then make our best judgement privately when we mark our ballots? Or have we become a nation of critics? Shame on all of us!
170. shannon | 09.29.08
I never cease to be amazed by the people who really believe Obama is a Muslim. Even after all the uproar over his pastor–his PASTOR, not his imam–a disturbingly high number of people believe he is Muslim.
Having lived in Indonesia as a child does not make him a Muslim. I lived in Cairo for a while and I’m a Presbyterian; Egypt didn’t change that. Attending a “madrasa” does not mean he is a Muslim. A brief Arabic lesson: “madrasa” means school. Not an ideologically driven school, just a school, any primary school. Words for education are related in Arabic: “mudaresa” is teacher, “adrus” is “I study,” “yudaris” is “he teaches,” etc. Stop with the fear-mongering.
By the way, the fact that I speak Arabic doesn’t make me a Muslim either. It makes me a State Department alum.
171. Patrick | 09.29.08
My Predictions of what Palin’s going to do on Thursdays debate:
1. she will admit being new
2. she will make personal attacks at Biden
3. she will shoot her own toes
4. she will be enormously attractive to listen to and look at
5. she will be the cause for McCain’s greater loss.
Biden wouldn’t have to do much actually… just being himself will be enough. His knowledge, experience, support for Obama’s policies will see him through.
But Palin… I’m almost sorry for her. Empty confidence won’t get very far in the long run. Americans aren’t as stupid as they look.
172. puffasmoke | 09.29.08
Dear Mark:
A comment about your mathematic evaluation of Mike’s comment. First of all, it presumes that Joe Biden was giving a speech which Sarah Palin was in fact listening to, at the age of 8. Given her recent interviews, she seems least likely to have been listening to political speeches at age eight, let alone age 43. Asked by Charlie Gibson about the “Bush Doctrine,” she was stumped, not knowing what the Bush Doctrine was. At any rate, it appears that she, is the second coming of George Bush in a skirt, goofy glasses, and the same lack of curiosity about the world. It is more likely given that she took six years to complete a bachelor’s degree, from IDAHO, no pun intended, that she might have been fifteen, when she got to a second grader’s comprehension level. Has anyone wondered what degree she holds? Why did it take her six years?
173. Roger Josek | 09.29.08
Re Comment #2 above:
“ill informed people…believe that the economy is the primary responsibility of the President”
According to whom? The president arguably has more immediate influence over the economy, through the collection of taxes, issuance of debt, regulation of major sectors of the economy, and direct government spending, than the Congress, which budgets income and expenditures and sets the debt ceiling. Only through earmarks does the Congress directly control spending, and earmarks are a small fraction of federal expenditures.
The President of the US is in charge of the departments of Treasury, Commerce, and Internal Revenue, as well as a number of other entities which regulate the economy or have an enormous economic impact, by virtue of expenditures (such as Defense, Social Security Administration), or regulation (such as Agriculture, FDA, Securities and Exchange Commission). The president also appoints the Chairman of the Fed.
“Democrats…have done nothing while acquiring an approval rating half that of the President”
I’m not aware of polls in which the public compares their approval of Democrats versus Republicans. Either you’re making this factoid up, or you’re confusing it with polls expressing public disapproval of Congress (both Republican and Democrat). Congresses that lack a controlling majority from either party tend to deadlock, just as the current one does, and so garner disapproval accordingly.
174. jordan | 09.29.08
What a mess we are in here! Blame the president, blame congress, blame someone; but I think our problem is more societal. The “American Dream” is all about living above our means; living on credit. As our incomes rise throughout our working careers, our expenses rise proportionally or greater. Living in California, I have chosen not to buy a home because I saw this mess coming from a mile away. I can’t tell you how many people I have spoken to that got themselves into a home they can’t afford with some ridiculous mortgage; some even opted for the interest-only loans banking that their home will double in value over the next ten years. I always pose the question “yeah, but what if it doesn’t?” The usual response is a quick, blind, and over-confident statement, “it will!”
So who’s to blame? (1) The banks for giving crazy loans to people that can’t afford it? (2) the people who took the loans who didn’t care to read the fine print? (3) or should we all take responsibility for living the way we do and not educating our children about money and financial health?
175. Virginia Cooney-Davis | 09.29.08
The first person commenting was correct: It is not the office of President that makes the economic policy, it is Congress.
Although I do not approve of Palin’s hunting, I admire her gumption, her strength, and the fact that she does NOT cower when the Democrats rattle their sabers.
Sarah Palin is breath of fresh air needed by not only the Republican Party, but by this country. I personally, have had my fill of the stuffy windbags currently on the Hill.
Go kick some ***, Sara. Do it for your country, do it for me.
176. Anthony | 09.29.08
Joe W.
The fall of the Soviet Union was because Reagan out spent him with a military build up and they couldn’t keep up. Why don’t you spend your time reading instead of writing?
177. gatorhistory | 09.29.08
Palin is clearly out of her depth. What is even more upsetting to see is McCain, once an honorable man, and someone who did fight the good fight in DC has and continues to disgrace himself in this campaign. It seems, and comes across, that he is so desperate to become POTUS (this will be his last chance) that he will sink to any lengths to be successful. The ads he is running and the ridiculous choice of running mate are clear indications of his desperation. If he had to stuck to being honest and forthright with the American public he would have a better chance of getting elected IMO.
As far as Barack goes, he’s been a state legislator for what, 8 years before being a Senator? Before that a community activist? Some of the very things people make fun of him for are the very issues and beliefs that are lacking in today’s society. Public service is SUPPOSED to be a noble calling. People wanting to make their communities better, and putting service to the community and government above themselves and their own selfishness. Whatever happened to those ideas being a good thing?
178. Lulu | 09.29.08
To IVAN at comment 155. Do you really believe that all democrats think abortion is ok? DOn’t you think that is a little closed minded. I find that completely insulting and disgusting. I am a democrat. I believe that women have the right to choose. I also think that if there is a right to choose then there is no need for anyone else ie. prolife organizations to take away that right to choose. It is a choice. I do not believe in abortion as a form of birth control. I believe in education. I think it is so sad that you have that viewpoint and that you seem to think people take dead babies so lightly. There isn’t a single democrat I know who takes abortion lightly. I also know a lot of republicans who have a lack of respect for all life in general.
179. gatorhistory | 09.29.08
Palin is clearly out of her depth. What is even more upsetting to see is McCain, once an honorable man, and someone who did fight the good fight in DC has and continues to disgrace himself in this campaign. It seems, and comes across, that he is so desperate to become POTUS (this will be his last chance) that he will sink to any lengths to be successful. The ads he is running and the ridiculous choice of running mate are clear indications of his desperation. If he had to stuck to being honest and forthright with the American public he would have a better chance of getting elected IMO.
As far as Barack goes, he’s been a state legislator for what, 8 years before being a Senator? Before that a community activist? Some of the very things people make fun of him for are the very issues and beliefs that are lacking in today’s society. Public service is SUPPOSED to be a noble calling. People wanting to make their communities better, and putting service to the community and government above themselves and their own selfishness. Whatever happened to those ideas being a good thing?
180. Paul | 09.29.08
155 Ivan:
At some point in your life, you definitely drank the koolaid. I’m sorry.
Been listening to lots of conservative talk radio? Were you paraphrasing in your post or should you be using quotes?
181. Ivan | 09.29.08
Obama doesn’t inspire me. All he does is talk. He has never DONE anything. His judgement is suspect as are his views on human nature. He wants to take from the motivated and give to those that aren’t motivated. You can’t give people motivation they have to want it.
Obama thinks small business owners like me who work 120 hour weeks should be taxed more as if somehow breaking our ***es to pay off debt and get AHEAD instead of spending time on vacation and in coffee shops whining means we have done something to be punished.
Obama doesn’t understand nor do half the people on here that income doesn’t mean rich. Accumulated ***ets means rich. If you still have to go out and work you *** off every weekend you aren’t rich and just because someone earns more than you doesn’t mean they are rich - chances are they just work harder or smarter or both. He says that 95% of people will get a tax cut (just not the 5% who already pay 85% of all taxes).
182. Mailman | 09.29.08
Personally, I feel that the office of the president is far too important to have someone learn on the job. Although Barack Obama seems very intelligent and obviously smooth, I can’t overlook the obvious. The fact remains he has less experience in government than the number two person on the other ticket whom a lot of you are writing off as having little or no experience.
How ironic.
183. mavisdarling | 09.29.08
Ivan, you have been watching too much Republican propaganda, dear. It’s okay though, because I know that with love and support, you can be de-programmed. We Democrats will still respect you, honest.
I do want to say that you are treading on very thin ice when you insinuate that all Democrats support death for babies. I hope you would never say anything so ignorant in a group of people; hope you are only stupid enough to say that on the internet. Talk about falling into a fallacious mire!!
Nobody LIKES abortion, dear. It’s NOT the ideal situation at all!! Is anybody here saying that Bristol Palin should have had an abortion? NO!! It was her choice. More power to her!! That is the whole point of CHOICE, you get to CHOOSE. But certain circumstances warrant abortion. A woman should have a choice. It’s not up to the government to decide.
Wow, dude. You are as clueless as Sarah Palin!!
184. wordy | 09.29.08
Palin is the dimwit politician of our decade. She has a nice body and a ***** face, but those are only positive points.
185. Alaskan Susie | 09.29.08
OK Folks, We live in Alaska and we are registered ‘Independents’. Governor Palin has done a decent job of cleaning out the ‘Good Ol Boy’ network of politicians on both sides. She may be a Republican in her moral values, but she operates as both as Republican and a Democrat in office and has made decisions based on what is best for our state, not for either party. She is respected by both Democrats and Republicans alike up here. For an executive - that is a good thing in being able to work with all parties to get the job done. The end results are the best for the people.
Alaska is different from the lower 48 states. We do not have the major recession or the housing problem that you do. We do not pay state income tax, but receive a ‘reserve’ state income tax in the form of a ‘Permanent Fund Dividend’ every year (This year was $2069.00 for every man, woman, and child residing in Alaska - not too shabby). Did Governor Palin create this fund - no. But she does have the bare knuckles, get ‘er done attitude of our former Governors, and she has been instrumental in working with our state legislature in protecting the fund for the Alaskan citizens.
Bottom line - take a look at Alaska’s quality of life and see if you would not agree that it is pretty sweet up here. Must explain why we keep seeing more and more folks from the lower 48 relocating up here. Our local governments must be doing something right. Hmmmm ….
We also appreciate her going full term with her son Trig (love his name of ‘Van’ Palin - goes with the ‘Van Halin’ rock group :-). I am pro-choice, but can appreciate everyone’s views, and especially appreciate someone who is pro-life who ACTUALLY has a special needs child, or who has adopted a special needs child.
So, before slinging dirt at ANY politician, you may want to ask what they are all about as an individual, and what they have done for their constituents. That goes for Senator Obama, Senator Biden, and Senator McCain. Who can talk the talk and walk the walk - w/o the partisan politics. Also - when did we start dropping folks’ titles? It is SENATOR Obama, SENATOR Biden, SENATOR McCain, and GOVERNOR Palin, not “Hey What’s ‘er Name!” Start showing some respect for each other and maybe the world will start respecting us again.
Take care. Oh … and the view of Russia has been very nice today. The sun is out and shinning :-))) All kidding aside, Alaska and Hawaii are first in line for a nuclear attack from North Korea and/or China. So yes, we do know something about foreign countries.
186. Larry clifton | 09.29.08
The american people don’t want sandra pelosi to give hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to teh mobsters who robbed us. let the homes be foreclosed, the stock market fall and the government start living without deficit spending. This is the message, it will not change, even if a deal is struck later….
187. Ivan | 09.29.08
>BUT don’t forget it’s those narrow-minded, racist, ignorant evangelical >CHRISTIANS you want to watch out for TOO
Seems more like it is the wacked out narrow-minded racist ignorant democrats we should be watching out for.
-I
188. JBrinkmeyer | 09.29.08
It is astounding to me that people are speaking of Sarah Palin being able to cram for this debate like its mid-term paper. She can memorize talking points. She can put on her “I’m a hockey-mom, PTA, down home cooking small town gal” routine all she wants. Nothing will cover up the fact that she is the most supremely unqualified candidate we have ever had run for high office in this country.
It’s like the emperor’s new clothes. This woman is traveling around the country wearing nothing of political substance. We can all see she’s naked. But no one dares to say it out loud.
Come on, people. This is not a serious candidate. McCain is having a good joke at our expense.
189. bob sr. | 09.29.08
What are all you young liberals going to do when Obama decides to use the selective service and have a draft again????? but from the comments I see, I don’t think most of you have an IQ high enough to dress your selves….
190. catpurrson | 09.29.08
Palin holds a degree in communications and journalism which makes her lack of coherentness even more of a joke. Wouldn’t think that someone who major in journalism would know how to organize her thoughts into something that resembles a sentence instead of rambling nonsense?
191. Robert Castle | 09.29.08
SHE WOULDN’T, OR WOULD SHE?
Remember the speculation about the mysterious bulge that was visible under Bush’s suit coat during one of his presidential debates.
A technical expert who designs and makes such devices for the U.S. military and private industry was reported as saying that he believed the bulge was indeed a transceiver designed to receive electronic signals and transmit them to a hidden earpiece lodged in Bush’s ear canal. It appears that it would be easy for Sarah to conceal such a device.
193. catpurrson | 09.29.08
(q)He is a vicious person(uq)
Former representative Charles LeBoutillier R-NY
(q)An embarrassment to the party(uq)
Arizona GOP state senator Susan Johnson
(q)There is nothing redeeming about John Mccain…he’s a hypocrite(uq)
Former house GOP whip Tom DeLay
(q)He is erratic(uq)
Senator Thad Cochran, R- MS
(q)Arrogant is another way to say it. It’s a quality about him that disturbs me. (uq)
Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
(q)What happens if he gets angry in a crisis…? It’s the president’s job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don’t see that he has that quality. (uq)
Former Arizona GOP chairman John Hinz
(q)His temper would place this country at risk…and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind that should disqualify him(uq)
Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NM
(q)I decided I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger. (uq)
Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM
194. Paul Stewart | 09.29.08
18. B Hunn | 09.29.08
Realities:
1. The economic downturn is a result of the prior economic bubble
2. The President does not, and cannot, control the world, or the economy
3. Huge, poor, investments cannot be cured by using other peoples money
4. Time equalizes all bad decisions
5. Learn to read, write and think before you complain
Sorry, you are down the Rabbit Hole with the McCainites and the Republicans thwarting this legistlation. The truth is:
1. The downturn is from the financial crisis that started to get really noticed over a year ago. The crisis is from over deregulation and failed over sight and from greed gone unchecked for nearly a decade.
2. The President is the LEADER of the Economy, in fact the LEADER of the entire United States and the free world. Admittedly, he has failed at all three. And McCain was right in there getting his share and getting the rest wrong.
3. These are not huge poor investments, they are the institutions that are the financial back bone of the American and global economy.
4. If not addressed, time will indeed equalize - equalize all your money and everyone else’ money to nothing.
5. Learn to think before you write and complain.
195. Hard Working American | 09.29.08
If the Dems are so great and wonderful, why have their approval rating at 9%?
196. shannon | 09.29.08
Sigh. Another person who doesn’t get the politics of the draft.
Politicians who periodically come out for the draft–and I confess to not knowing whether or not Obama has been among them–are generally doing it to make a point: that the military disproportionately relies on young, working-class kids who can’t afford college. That’s why you see a lot of politicians representing inner-city districts periodically float the idea of a draft–to point out that the kids in their district are the ones paying the price for our foreign policies.
Personally I’m totally in favor of a draft. If all our young folks shared the responsibilities of national defense equally, and politicians knew they might be sending *their* kids off to war, maybe they’d be more cautious about the decisions they made. Both FDR and Churchill had sons at the front. Recent presidents have not had to worry that their children would pay the cost of their policy decisions.
197. Paul Stewart | 09.29.08
“186. Robert Castle | 09.29.08
SHE WOULDN’T, OR WOULD SHE?
Remember the speculation about the mysterious bulge that was visible under Bush’s suit coat during one of his presidential debates.
A technical expert who designs and makes such devices for the U.S. military and private industry was reported as saying that he believed the bulge was indeed a transceiver designed to receive electronic signals and transmit them to a hidden earpiece lodged in Bush’s ear canal. It appears that it would be easy for Sarah to conceal such a device.”
Good thinking. You are probably right. The difference is, she won’t understand what she is hearing enough to be able to repeat it right. Never mind with comprehension.
198. Paul Stewart | 09.29.08
Truth is, the real reason for the switch of locations is a diversion. They are going to actually leave Palin in Alaska with the First Dude. They are going to go with Tina Fey - she is much smarter and she is infinitely more trainable.
199. pgo | 09.29.08
Be awake, Democrats! When Republicans have winning Presidential and Vice Presidential tickets they have a perceived-as-qualified candidate and a ‘peoples choice’ candidate. We Democrats always make the mistake of thinking that the peoples choice candidate is SO unqualified that the Republicans will surely lose. THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE. HIstory shows that it is the exact opposite. The more outrageous the peoples choice is, the more LIKELY it is that they will win. The SOLE purpose of the peoples choice end of the ticket is to reassure voters that the Republicans are not smarter than the voters and, will not “look down at them”. The more they convey that to their base, the better chance they have. The LESS the peoples choice knows about anything the more effective they are. A key trait is to be demonstrably NOT CURIOUS and decidedly anti science. The message is reinforced by the media which treats the ‘peoples choice’ as though they should know something, anything, anything at all. This allows the Republicans to run against the ‘liberal press’ who are snobs and look down on the peoples choice and of course look down on YOU as well. Please note that ten seconds after Palin finished her convention speech, the Rovian right was ALREADY attacking the press in the spin room for being against her. Go back an check it out. It’s such a tried and true tactic that it’s institutionalized. From that instant foreword all the right wing-nuts have spewed daily Norquist talking points bashing the media for being unfair to Palin.
2008: Qualified: McCain…….Peoples Choice: Palin (Creationist, hockey mom soap opera family)
2004: Qualified: Cheney…….Peoples Choice: Bush (Fractured syntax, pretend good old boy, thumbs nose at world)
2000: Qualified: Cheney…….Peoples Choice: Bush (Never traveled abroad, like to have a beer, bankrupted everything he touched)
1988: Qualified: Bush (sr)…..Peoples Choice: Quale (Vapid and empty, Deer in the Headlights, looked pretty)
1980 Qualified: Bush (sr)…..Peoples Choice: Reagan (movie actor in Bedtime for Bonzo could read one-liners..Well, there you go again.)
1968: Qualified: Nixon….Peoples Choice: Agnew (took bribes and went to jail, Scorned anti-war movement)
200. Jennifer | 09.29.08
You should all listen to Sean Hannity. He played clips today on his show of the Democratic party from 2004-2005 saying there is nothing wrong with Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae when the Republicans tried to institute a regulatory agency over them. Also, I think Palin will do well if allowed to be herself. Forget foreign policy experience (which, by the way, Obama has none of as a Community Organizer). The more she speaks from her heart about her real strengths, the more she is liked.
201. rdgfd | 09.29.08
If you vote independent you are wasting your vote. It is funny how independents think they are all enlightened and in on a secret. The truth is an independent has no chance of winning this election. Get over the conspiracy…the two party system has its flaws, but it is not going anywhere this election.
202. Bo luke | 09.29.08
Load da shotguns Ma! The DemsOrats are a go’in off the deep end. Theres a-gonna B a riot if that Mac dude wins.
203. Steve O | 09.29.08
Correct me if I’m wrong, but what kind of skills did the governor of Arkansas have when elected President, to run a country? Isn’t Vice President an easier job?
204. rdgfd | 09.29.08
Who cares if taxes are raised on small business owners? If they make over 250k, so what if their taxes are raised? It does not matter how you earn your money…
205. tonysboy | 09.29.08
I believe we will see the greatest meltdown in presidential campaign history
with McCain and Palin. I mean, you’re gonna see some sad botox smiles going into the last days if their aids can are still around and can prop them up.
It’s too bad. I always liked John. He would have made a very good president 8 years ago when he was still himself. Palin? An extremely talented, photogenic and charismatic individual. Clearly driven. Ultra Rights love her and their women surely identify with her. But Hilary supporters? (Political subtext - MODERN WOMEN?) This is where we start the…..
Dear John,
We’re sorry but you’re not going to be president. You will know this very soon and it will only get worse. You made several big mistakes and some of them were all at once.
Many of us over 50 (more than 50%) have been your supporters. We haven’t seen you as THAT old. But, perhaps subliminaly, we expected you to plan for your demise, whenever it might come, in terms of your responsibilities to the nation, much as one provides for their family.
Your last will and testement is Sara Palin?
This choice was political (you’ve always been a gambler and it appears that in this, your biggest card game, your maverick soul is part of the wager), pandering to MODERN WOMEN, and an insult to intelligent voters across all demographics. Even worse, to even contemplate the transfer of the presidency into the hands of your running mate may well have been the worst possible Presidential decision ever made by a would be President. You’re toast.
And you would have been so good for the local economy. (I live in Sedona.)
206. thoren58 | 09.29.08
Folks who support Palin are not stupid. Folks who support Palin are doing it reflexively, which is understandable. Folks who support Palin are not stupid but it is OK to let them know they look stupid. Again, it is understandable that some folks reflexively support Palin but in doing so they look stupid. My neighbor down the road is building a big barn and while I was chatting with him he said she was from a small town. I told him simply that anyone who supports Palin looks stupid. He understood. He’s a smart guy and supports her reflexively but he understands he looks stupid. No matter how she does in the debate and afterward, people who support her will continue to look stupid because McCain chose her for such stupid reasons and it is clear even if she pulls off some good speeches and debates that she isn’t ready to be president. My neighbors run a nursery business so if you have questions about gardening you can ask me because my neighbors run a nursery so that gives me some gardening experience in the same way that living near Russia has given Palin some foreign policy experience. Nobody wants to look stupid but folks who support Palin look stupid. That’s just the way it is and it is OK to tell them so.
207. DonFelder | 09.29.08
Nelda, you are right. Understand, though, that what you are reading comes from peoples’ fear and anger (desperation?) about the possibility of dealing with another 4 years of overly simplistic thinking at/near the top of the executive branch. Such thinking leaves one highly vulnerable to believing, for example, that “preemptive war” is in any way compatible with democracy. Or perhaps just not inclined to even question it.
You have to admit, the last eight years under Bush has shown us just how dangerous and costly that particular trait can be.
208. JSmith | 09.29.08
Interesting that folks are blaming the Prez for Wall Street after Bill Clinton established the conditions for the failure, Barney Frank ignored 17 requests from the Prez to reform it, and Dodd & Obama filled their pockets rather than do the oversight we were paying them to do.
209. Harry, Colorado | 09.29.08
“Bring it On”? She even sound like Buffoon Bush. The only think Biden should bring on is his stiff rod to ram into Sarah’s ******. That’s about all she’d good for anyway. Look at the bright side. If Sarah wins, we’ll finally have a vice president who’s edible.
210. Stan G | 09.29.08
I’m a Democrat, but I really feel sorry for Palin. She’s not so dumb (after all, she’s a brunette) that she’s not aware that her selection is an insult to the intelligence of American citizens. And, despite bravado, what do you think is going through her prettry little head when she’s desperately trying to fall asleep at night? Sher witnessed the debate between Obama and McCain and knew, without any doubt, that she would have looked awful in McCain’s place, and although Obama is less experienced than McCain, she would have appeared childish. Now she has to go agaist Biden. She’s having nightmares. I believe that if she could have a car accident (not one that would disfigure her, because she knows McCain would drop her in a heartbeat for another fox), she would be ever so gratefull … to God, of course.
211. Fred P | 09.29.08
Steve O…Steve O……Steve O! There you go again making sense. Your going to make some democrats head explode! LOL
212. james | 09.29.08
What’s with the amnesia?
Didn’t anyone see the 3 ridiculously embarrassing interviews she’s already given? Remember?
She’s still stupid, everyone. She is clueless. Why in the world is everyone pretending like she isn’t? “A skilled debater”? Where? She can’t even give intelligent responses to Katie Couric, let alone in a debate AGAINST someone who obviously knows way more than her. Are you kidding me? In order to win the debate, it’ll be easy because the expectations are so low? Is this how the media see it? Like a gameshow? Is this how far we’ve fallen? A position once held by the great & intellectual John Adams has been reduced to this suburbanite soundbite machine. What a disgrace for all of us. She’s lost the debate in my opinion because even if she “defies low expectations”, SHE IS STILL AN IDIOT.
213. Fred | 09.29.08
I think all you democommies are going to be surprised Thursday.
What’s that in the water…..? DUN DAH……………..DUN DAH………
SARAHCUDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
214. pgo | 09.29.08
Republican strategy…get anyone on the ticket who makes the base feel like regular folks just like them are going to run the most powerful nation on Earth. If any of them thought about it (which they don’t) - it would like having the guy/gal down the street in charge of making decisions about the fate of the world.
Then the Dick Cheney’s can sit in their undisclosed locations and rob us blind.
215. steve O | 09.29.08
Correct me if I’m wrong, but what kind of skills did the governor of Arkansas have when elected President, to run a country? Isn’t Vice President an easier job?
216. DougH | 09.29.08
Steve 0…
You want a list?
1. Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar - only 32 chosen from US per year. Distinguished himself academically
2. Arkansas population is almost 5 times the size of Alaska. Large economy with lower 48 type challenges…
3. He actually paid attention to national politics and was also well read - ready to campaign on day one
4. His first press conferences where impressive to most Americans
5. He had substantive plans for how to more the country forward like welfare reform and balancing the budget
6. He had traveled abroad for many years before his nomination… Didn’t have to rush to get a passport.
I could go on but the real comparison should be to GWB. Then you could say: “What’s the difference?”
218. wtfiswrongwithu | 09.29.08
Look, she is an idiot. end of story. if you cannot see that, then the GOP is the place for you. and how is it that democrats are the party that is attacked as being socialist, while we have a GOP President pushing for a taxpayer bailout of wall st.?
219. Pinky | 09.29.08
Steve O, I notice that is the second time you’ve posted your comment. I think people’s objections about Governor Palin are deep and complex enough that they aren’t likely to be assuaged by a technicality.
220. Olna Reeves | 09.29.08
Let’s remember that in her GOP speech before a receptive GOP audience, it was written for her and rehearsed, read from a teleprompter, something she is very comfortable with.
However, this is going to be a different kind of audience. She’ll be able to use memorized lines, but if she finds herself repeating them, similar to the way McCain mentioned TWICE that he was not “Miss Congeniality,” it will come off as very weird, especially if she uses the same phrases three or four times. If she gets to points where she’s babbling, making very little sense, or not addressing the question — as in the Couric interviews — it is going to be SOMETHING to behold.
If she starts calling Obama naive, and holding him responsible for the economic collapse or problems with the Iraq war, she’s going to come off as ridiculous. There’s also a great hope that the moderator will come out with at least one or two questions, that are completely new, unexpected, something that would cause both candidates to think on their feet. I’m looking forward to it.
She’s a good liar though, and perhaps it is easier to lie in a debate, than when an earnest interviewer like Couric is sitting a few feet away, looking into your eyes. Since water boarding isn’t torture according to Bush, perhaps both candidates need to be water boarded to get the truth out of them.
For Sarah, the truth might come out something like this: “Yes, yes, yes, I want to be President, and I’m going to be President, because God wants me to be president. Forget this vice president stuff. If Todd and my whole freakin’ family doesn’t like it, they can go jump in the lake. Ever since I came in 2nd in the Miss Alaska pageant, I have never wanted to come in second again….”
Also, she won’t be able to say, “I’ll get back to ya on that?” If she laughs, the audience may not laugh, and instead of it being charming, she’ll come off as absurd. If she doesn’t understand something, there will be no way out.
221. Hawk | 09.29.08
Are any of you democrats aware that McCain cosponsored legislation to increase regulatory oversight of Fannie / Freddie in 2005, and that Bush made a similar push in 2003, only to be rebuffed by congressional democrats who wanted to ensure that low-income Americans could continue to get home loans? The entire subprime market was created by democrats to get low-income people into homes. The problem is, sometimes they are not actually creditworthy. Fast forward to 2008, financial institutions are tanking, and democrats want to BLAME REPUBLICANS? The hypocrisy is staggering. Democrats are the authors and defenders of subprime loans over the last decade.
Sarah Palin has maintained an over 80% approval rating as a governor of a US state for well over a year now (Anchorage Daily News). I think I will take the opinion of those she has actually governed over the opinion of her opposition his media darlings when I make my decision.
222. DaveS | 09.29.08
Dear Heath
Apparently you are amongst the ill informed that you criticize as you failed to note that the republicans have filibustered every attempt by democrats to get anything done in congress during the last two years, and without a true majority of 60 percent or greater, they could do nothing to overcome the filibusters. If you actually read the congressional record and understood how congress functions, you would know this. The republicans are playing full court politics and preventing anything from getting done for their constituents. We need non-partisan politics to fix this mess, but that will never happen as long as you elect people who act like the opposition party are un-Patriotic because their views differ from yours. If you really believe in country first then you should elect people who know how to compromise in order to fix problems. It also helps to be truly informed and not just listen to Fox news.
223. Chuck Greene | 09.29.08
Sarah Palin may not be impressive this election, but I think that you can not deny her abilities to communicate with a very large portion of americans. These people would be scratching their heads if she was professorial, but she is just a lady who is outgoing and quit honestly, likable! She will go on to be elected a senator from Alaska and within 12 years will be a presidential candidate. This election cycle has enabled her, her natural talents will prepare her for the future. She went into this election knowing the risk she was facing, but you have to admire the fact that she answered the call!
Sarah is a future asset of this nation, should she choose to be.
224. Hawk | 09.29.08
rdgfd said: “Who cares if taxes are raised on small business owners? If they make over 250k, so what if their taxes are raised? It does not matter how you earn your money…”
Dear rdgfd, you might care if you are one of my employees. I have a small business and, if Obama were to raise the corporate tax rate as he plans, I will be letting 20 employees go. Their work will be shifted to my remaining employees. That will allow my business to survive a 4-5% increase in federal tax. After that, I will be raising the price to my customers to make up the remainder of the corporate tax increase. I may have to raise it further to make us the new FUTA and personal income tax I have to pay - after all, I have a mortgage too, and if I don’t pay it, I get foreclosed.
I will not allow the identity and policies of the president of the United States to cause the failure of my business. So, save up your tax refund, because you will be paying it many times over in increased costs of goods and services as businesses like mine adjust to an Obama presidency. And pray that your job is absolutely essential to the day-to-day operations of your employer, because if it is not you may well find yourself not having to worry about paying taxes at all.
I prefer not to fire my employees and raise my prices. So I will be voting McCain.
225. TJ | 09.29.08
She has been listening to Senator Biden since the second grade and still hasn’t learned anything? What makes us think 3 days of cramming at the feet of McCain will teach her anything?
I hope she brings with her the same “spunk” and style and retorts she showed at the convention and on her campaign stumps. I hope she shows us the extent of her “talent” during this debate. She will look the fool and the clown that she is.
All she can do is insult people but she is insulting herself.
226. A Message to Heath, #2 above | 09.29.08
the primary reason this democratic congress got nothing worthwhile accomplished in the past two years MIGHT be that bush vetoed any bill that involved main street, unless it was to up the number of armed services recruiting stations on it. so there, you stupid putz.
227. TJ | 09.29.08
The Governor of Arkansas was an attorney and a Rhodes Scholar and had been active in local and national political life and government for many years, working as an intern in Washington during the 60s and on campaigns for others for many years. He was informed on the issues and could articulate them intelligently.
228. JW | 09.29.08
Well, it’s obvious Obama crammed facts in preparation for his debate. Why can’t Palin do the same?
229. Chris in Texas | 09.29.08
Um, Vince,
The first working television set was demonstrated in 1906 and the first long distance transmission of a TV image was in 1927 between Washington and NTC.
Who’s the moron?
230. Ivan | 09.29.08
Bill Clinton
1)Rhodes Scholar : Popularity contest
2)Population size wasn’t such an issue when Lieberman was your #2
3)You have no idea if he was well read. He had good speech writers. He could give weepy speeches to make himself sound sincere while raping women and getting a pass because people like you were so enamored by his words
4)You have no idea if this is true or not.
5)Move the country forward? Yeah with affirmative action racism and the creation of Freddie and Fannie and forced bank subsidies for poor people. That is how we got into this mess. Yeah, nice job Bill.
6)Smoking pot while hitting on girls in Europe doesn’t qualify you to do anything and only the elite think it does.
I’m sure you could go on and on. You are blind the fact that your guy Bill lied to America’s face on national TV. You ACCUSE Bush of lying but if there was ANY evidence he knowingly lied you would have impeached him by now.
It depends on what is is indeed. He couldn’t even admit he was a drug user or a cheater. What does it say about you that you want that back in charge? Whitewater anyone?
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231. David W. | 09.29.08
You know, I support Obama all the way, and I think McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin was a bad decision. It was bad because it shows that McCAin has completely caved in to the extreme elements of the Republican party. It was bad because it was a crass political ploy meant to make the conservative party appear progressive and pro-woman. It was bad because, out of all the truly qualified Republican women that they could have chosen, they chose one who is not ready to be President of the United States.
But having said all that, I think it’s plain wrong for people to call her stupid, or a moron. It’s also totally unneccesary. We know absolutely nothing of her intellectual potential. All we can say, and all we need to say, is that she is not ready now, and no amount of “cramming” is going to make her the equal of any of the other candidates in terms of knowledge and experience. Through no fault of her own, she was thrust into this position. The real morons are McCain and his advisors who picked her and thought somehow we wouldn’t notice that she isn’t ready to lead the nation! And their cynical attempt to woo women voters by forcing Sarah Palin into what has been a terribly humiliating situation for her actually reveals a total disregard for the struggles of women. They don’t get it!
232. Tony | 09.29.08
Again, the point is missed entirely. The point is that neither of these two candidates cares about America. Both are bought and paid for by the corporate/military/Israeli crime syndicate. Vote all incumbents out, and do NOT vote for a democrat/republican for President because the two-headed beast has sold your country into slavery. Vote for the Constitution, not manufactured personalities.
233. Gabe | 09.29.08
my favorite comment was the guy who said it was actually clinton’s fault for the current economic disaster. funny how you don’t see one single economic analyst saying that. maybe they are too “lazy” to do the research. also i love the whole obama is a terrorist muslim **** that you idiots keep spewing. yes im sure its a huge conspiracy by the Dems to plant a cell and turn the nation into a new taliban. i think YOU guys are gonna make obama win.
234. Creamsykle | 09.29.08
“Boy oh boy — the Dems/BHO have some real mean folks supporting/working for them. Nasty stuff. Do you really want to win by throwing trash around?”
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We learned from the best. We have improved on your style though.
235. Creamsykle | 09.29.08
199. rdgfd | 09.29.08
Who cares if taxes are raised on small business owners? If they make over 250k, so what if their taxes are raised? It does not matter how you earn your money…
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Any small business owner who remove 250k worth of capitol a year from his/her small business… won’t be in business long. The smart ones reinvest their money back into the business. If they can afford to remove 250k worth of capitol, then they can afford a higher tax bracket. I say this as an owner of a small business that does about 4 million a year.
236. mike | 09.29.08
Obama’s father was a Sunni Muslim. In Islam, the son and daughter automatically take the father’s religion. Obama converted to Christianity. So Obama is a Christian.
But many Muslims cannot accept conversion from Islam to any other faith. They such ‘turn-coats’ apostates, and the punishment they reserve for them is death by be-heading.
The day Obama is sworn in as president, every single sheikh and mullah from Morocco to China will call him an apostate and call for his blood. It will be just another excuse to hate America and Americans even more.
The excuses they have now for hating us are unreasonable, so why not hate America for electing a treacherous ex-Muslim?
237. Sandra | 09.29.08
So did any of you ever have a technical problem with your computer and called Microsoft or AT&T for technical support and you get the techies with their cheat sheets who go down the list. Well listen to the neocon trolls, sound like they’re reading from a cheat sheet? You betcha they are - and they probably take notes when they listen to Limbaugh, Savage and Fox News, and spit (I can’t think of any other word) out the pea green soup. I don’t think even 10% of them know what they’re talking about, or have the thought capability to have an original thought. And get this trolls - Bush, McCain and your sorry a–es can spread fear and smear all you want - it’s not going to work this time.
So please, it’s going to be hard to take another month of this BS. Just let’s get to the election and let Obama do his job at attempting to put the pieces back together. Sheech.
Country first! American for Obama.
238. Sandra | 09.29.08
When Palin goes back to Alaska, she should probably resign as Governor, and sign some contracts with Hollywood. She could either play Tina Fey on SNL or star in a movie about the 2008 election. Sounds like that’s something she would enjoy.
239. Jim Hale | 09.29.08
Amazing how bitter you liberals are. We heard the same kinds of narrow minded comments during both Bush elections… guess what, you lost then and you’ll lose again. Your disrespect of Sarah Palin is unbelievable. If she were a man this wouldn’t be happening. The Silent Majority are not bloggers, and they’re not big CNN watchers… or Leftist, Socialist, European/Islamic fantatics. Just plain folk that will elect a war hero with common sense and good judgement as well as a hard fighting woman that made something of herself coming from nothing.
240. Sandra | 09.29.08
So when Obama takes office, are you right wingnuts going to take your canned goods and rifles into the woods or north to Alaska to wait for the Rapture?
241. Ross Perot | 09.29.08
How about all of you just look at what bills the 2 running for PRESIDENT have sponsored in congress since 2005.(to be fair to Obama) Then decide which one most represents the needs of America. Then look at who they cosponsored with to see who works across the lines. Stop watching the news and letting them decide for you.
242. Sandra | 09.29.08
Hey RED Fred, Bail, bail, bail, bomb, bomb, bomb, drill, drill, drill, blame, blame, blame. Perhaps you RED wingnuts should rent a big room and sit and meditate while chanting your cult mantras.
243. Rebecca | 09.29.08
I am truly terrified that she will spew completely unfounded lies left and right (or should that be “right and even further right”) and people will watch this happen and agree with her! I’m worried that no matter what Biden does or says to prove her totally and utterly wrong that people will believe her and commend her for her “spunk” and for her skewed facts and for her legs!
I am utterly terrified that Senator McCain will win this election, and kick the bucket - resulting in this woman as our president.
Shame on every single one of you who are underestimating such a woman, and shame on every single one of you who are proud or excited for her to be put in office.
Ladies: she is not a dream come true to help us break the glass ceiling. She isn’t even a quarter of the woman Hillary Clinton is. But I will not underestimate her ability to distract from the truth and fool the American people as a whole. I am scared to the core of my being by this. I hope Senator Biden is as well.
I love my country dearly and what it stands for. And I am terrified that we would entrust our great country to Senator McCain, who wouldn’t know “straight talk” if it bit him, and Ms. Palin, who simply puts me at a loss for words as to how unqualified she is, and to how insulting it is that someone so blind as she would be put in such a position. When did our country begin to mean so little to us that we ceased to hold our highest office as an elite position?
244. tonysboy | 09.29.08
Ok Steve O, I’m feeling it, I’ll give your question a shot.
There is the holy trinity of attributes required to attain and sustain real leadersip: extra smartness, charisma and a sense of destiny. There is a fourth quality which could be determined as intent or judgement. In other words, one could possess the first three qualities and still be Hitler. For the purpose of my illustration we will not consider this fourth quality.
Bill Clinton possesses the first three qualities, much as only JFK in the recent past before him. Had he not squandered his inherent capital with irresponsible actions he would have gone down in history as a great president instead of a very good one.
Sara Palin no doubt possesses charisma and a sense, no doubt, of her destiny, otherwise how could she possibly have come from soccer, moose hunting mom, small town school board member, mayor…. to the VICE PRESIDENCY of the United States, only a 72 year old heartbeat away from the EXECUTIVE OFFICE in such a remarkably short time?
What she does not possess is extra smartness, she’s only pretty smart. And she was tapped way before her time. How could she possibly know the brightest minds in the political, financial, world relations and military arenas? Bill Clinton did. He was an up and comer that was recognized and mentored by many of the giants of these ‘industries’ who rewarded many of them or equal colleagues with important positions in his very capable administration.
Who does Sara Palin know outside of Alaska?
Btw, Barrack Obama posseses these 3 important qualities in spades and he has known LOTS of important and knowledgeable folks for years now. The Democratic party thought enough of him 4 years ago to make him the all important Keynote Speaker at the last Democratic Convention, which, as a result of the ordinary American learning of him for the first time, launched his Presidencial aspirations.
To paraphrase an old quote: I knew JFK. JFK was a friend of mine. Bill Clinton is a JFK. Barrack Obama is a JFK. Sara Palin is no JFK.
245. let it go | 09.29.08
I really wonder if anyone reads the spew responses here are not. I would like just one republican to tell me exactly what it is they fear so much about Obama becoming President. I’m also curious as to why your so proud that Bush won the last two presidential elections (no matter the method). I mean, surely your not so indoctrinated into a political party and in such denial as to hold that as some type of accomplishment to be proud of.
I also get a good laugh when I hear the revolution ****, most of you don’t own a gun and if you do you wouldn’t use it anyway. In fact, every time I jacked back on a republican and his tough talk, trust me when I say, they not only did not stand up, they couldn’t get behind there wives fast enough. One guy actually peed his britches…..lol.
They want war, but they and their children stay home. They are patriots in public, cowards at heart. They are conservative, yet their spending cant even be defined as rational. They want less government, but you get more and the government you get wants to be able to tell you what you can and cant do. So from any sensible perspective, basically, your just a bunch of blow hards.
Reagan,s party is dead and you should all be ashamed of yourselves as you have dishonored the man on every level…..big whooping surprise.
I smell landslide and mandate, and lets face it, your going to much better off for it.
And don’t worry, we will protect you from the ****** man you so fear.
246. J | 09.29.08
Biden with all his foreign policy experience and far more experience than McCain in politics, still cannot hold a candle to Palin when it comes to preventing witch related traffic accidents.
He’d better pray they stay off demonic topics where she clearly has the edge.
247. Chris | 09.30.08
Its amazing how I still see arguments about Obama’s inexperience. I thought that would be over since he picked Biden. Though, being elected president doesn’t fall into just have experience, it also falls into having intellect. I believe Obama has the credentials to be president because he is intelligent. I think his intelligence should be able to cover up for his inexperience. I mean Lincoln didn’t have much experience at all and well was elected president and fought and won a war. The reason, he was smart. Also if I were getting a job say as a physicist, the people hiring me don’t go “Well even though you major in physics, I cannot give you the job because well based on your experience, you haven’t had a job in this field before”. So I wouldn’t be able to get the job because I have no experience in the field, yet I have the credentials? That doesn’t make sense. So that’s only an example, my point is that Obama doesn’t have to rely on experience as much if he has the credentials to be president.
Also on Palin, just was the interview with Katie Couric and the SNL skit and you can see a lot of similarities.
248. johnbuche | 09.30.08
Heath, you are obviously a right wing idiot.
It is 100% the fault of Republicans that we are in this mess.
60% of the Democrats voted for the bailout bill to pass, only 37% of the Republicans voted for it.
They’re reason, because their feeling got hurt by Nancy Pelosi.
They should feel ashamed of themselves, jeopardizing their constituents and the American feelings because their feelings got hurt.
249. trent | 09.30.08
Americans should expect accountability in our politicans, and Americans need to be accountable. Raising taxes on the wealthy who already pay 40% of taxes is not right. Living beyond one’s means, not saving, buying homes one cannot afford and expecting your neighbor to pay for your irresponsibilities is unethical. Our tax system should not become more progressive. Furthermore, there is excellent data that raising Captial Gains Taxes actually decreases revenue, so you must ask yourself why Senator Obama would raise Capital Gains knowing revenue would decline? Wealth redistribution?
250. David | 09.30.08
Ho 234 Jim -
McCain is a war hero? How did he do that? What do he do that was so heroic?
Just because he was in the military doesn’t make him a hero. It makes him a vet.
Like me. And lots of guys. Not heroes. Vets.
Heroes do something like save a bunch of people, rush into a dangerous situation to help out. Drag people to safety, that sort of thing. Please tell us what John McCain did that makes him a hero. Got shot down and signed a confession denouncing America? That what you’re thinking of??
251. Charles Lopez | 09.30.08
I have lived in Alaska and made a living fishing. When I hear Palin talking about
all this experience in Wasilla and her days as Governor I can not help laughing.
People in the lower 48 have no idea what Alaska is like.
Wasilla is a wide spot in the road. The State of Alaska has less people than every city in the lower 48.
I lived on Prince of Wales in a Native Village and you only see people that you know or a hand full that go out on Charter Boats.
The Governor in Alaska is not like any in the lower 48, It takes less than 100,000 votes to win. There is a reason that no one has run for VP from Alaska.
This state would not prepare anyone for the white house. Most people in Alaska have no desire to be in the white house.
252. gatorhistory | 09.30.08
Everybody keeps talking about experience and age needed to be an effective President. Seems the older generation is doing wonders in Washington to me. Maybe it’s time for a change, a major change. Young people can be effective as well. Older age does not always mean experience and knowledge. It can mean set in ways and an inability to change.
The situation right now warrants change. Personally I’m a historian and Newt Gingrich fan, but I absolutely refuse to vote for McCain and that excuse for a Governor he chose as his running mate. Talk about having no business on a national ticket. McCain should truly be ashamed of himself — and he’s lost voters like me who would have otherwise voted for him.
253. gatorhistory | 09.30.08
Oh, and one more point. Everyone that is upset the bailout bill did not pass, to be quite honest, it’s not going to accomplish anything other than to give the Treasury Department unfettered access to $700 BILLION dollars.
Anyone that knows anything about economics knows that time is the only thing that is going to straighten out the current mess we are in. Nobody wants to hear their house is worth less than before, but things have been so out of hand for so long, this is a necessary correction. Capitalism is about free markets — the government has no business using our money to bailout greedy bankers who got in over their heads. Deposits are insured by FDIC — let the companies fail AND hold those executives responsible for what they’ve done.
254. George | 09.30.08
How about enduring daily torture and not taking an early release unless his fellow prisoners were also released. Sounds heroic to me. Could you do that?How many could? Obama would not have lasted a week to Mccains years.
255. Kimlan | 09.30.08
Ok, so allowing himself to be tortured qualifies him to be president? He was a child of privilege who got into West Point because of the influence of his father and grandfather. Today. he is simply a power-hungry politician reckless and irresponsible, cynical and mean-spirited as your typical Republican of late. Country first? Come on!!!! Nothing endangers our country’s future more than the prospect of a President Palin… with McCain at 72 and several malignomas in his kept-secret health file it could happen. Are you willing to stake the future of your retirement, your children and your grandchildren’s country on a President Palin? No one has to say anything else about her… just listen to her.. she will make the case against McCain more loudly than anything anyone else can say.
256. J | 09.30.08
Everyone needs to check their facts. Im sick of everyone arguing, Rs and Ds, about things they actually know nothing about. It’s actually quite annoying. I suggest all of you go to http://www.factcheck.org so you can make some sense in the next anonymous, random, futile blog post.
257. Anthony | 09.30.08
johnbuche - you are obviously a left wing idiot.
Your own statement indicates that 60% of the Dems voted for the bail out. Let me see, that leaves 40% who didn’t. Hummm, let me get this straight. The vote was as close as only requiring 13 more votes, the house majority is democrats, 40% represents about 90 reps, but it was the Republicans that are jeopardizing the US. Damn those Republicans, even when they don’t have the majority they still are trying to screw everyone.
258. gindy | 09.30.08
I am so tired of hearing people say that the housing crisis was caused by people who took out mortgages that they couldn’t afford - that is not the only thing that caused this crisis… what about the people who could afford their homes just fine until they got laid off because of this **** hole of an economy we are in? Do those people deserve to lose their homes? What about the people that were victims to predatory lending? Do they deserve to lose their homes?
I wish people would stop being so narrow minded and look at things from a perspective that is broader that just your own.
259. Happy Hammer | 09.30.08
Hi all in US,
just checking on the views across the pond from us in the UK re your election.
To be honest I don’t know enough about the party policies but wow that Sarah Palin being interviewed, she may look good but when she opens her mouth!I thought our Politicians were bad over here.
When is she up for live debate? she will be murdered by a skilled Politician, should be a good laugh.
On a sepearte note from party politics apart I hope you guys are not sufferring too much in this global **** up, hard times here as well.
Let’s pray whichever party gains power helps the average man on the street look after his family.
260. KrisB9 | 09.30.08
Sen. Biden is a longtime resident of Delaware. His prediction regarding Delaware versus Ohio had more to do with loyalty and standing up for his home team, a noble concept that apparently escapes the sharp-tongued Gov. Palin.
261. Carol | 09.30.08
Go ahead and vote for McCain-Palin and watch this country go down in flames. Republicans loved George Bush, yet look at how he and his cronies have brought this country to it’s knees. Yes, if the thought of Palin as President (not to mention McCain) does not bother you, then you will get exactly what you deserve.
262. Gary | 09.30.08
I hope Palin will ask Biden why international conflicts ramain steady. As Chair of Senate Foreign Relations he has been weak. Just look at Israel-Palestine. Biden has never made one mention of the plight of the Palestinians and until an American leader comes on strong to treat Palestine with the same fsvor as Israel there will never be peace.
263. Peter | 09.30.08
Looks like the liberals are really worried about Palin, judging by the real ad-hominem attacks on her. To make the Democrats feel a bit better, may I remind them that another “totally unqualified” vice president, Harry Truman, turned out to be one of the better presidents of the 20th Century. I am definitely voting for the Palin-McCain ticket!
264. Marie | 09.30.08
It has been months now, and I still can not believe that so many people intend to vote for the OsBAMA/BInlaDEN ticket. God help us all if they win.
265. Luise Perenne | 09.30.08
To 69. independent here | 09.29.08
FYI: the U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES was the lesilative body that voted down the financial bailout.
SENATOR Joe Biden did NOT vote on the bailout (either pro or con), because the U.S. SENATE has had NO VOTE on the matter.
Please try to remember that the US Congress is a BICAMERAL legislative body: consisting of the House of Representative AND the Senate.
Were you asleep that day in high school civics class?
266. Luise Perenne | 09.30.08
To 117. Big Mike | 09.29.08
First of all, Senator Obama is NOT a Muslim. He is a practicing Christian. He was born in Hawaii lived BRIEFLY in Indonesia. as a CHILD. His stepfather was an indifferent Muslim. Obama attended a school where Islam as well as OTHER religions were part of the curriculum, becasue his stepfather and mother chose to send him and PAID his tuition. That no more makes him a member of the Islamic faith attending a private Catholic school for a year made me a Roman Catholic for life.
The reason I don’t support the McCain-Palin ticket? Their position on Women’s Rights to Choose (they BOTH want to overturn Roe v. Wade), lack of suppport for women’s rights to equal pay for equal work, continued LACK of support for improving Veterans’ Medical Treatment and the new 2008 GI Bill of Rights. For all McCain’s blather about “caring” for veterans, he mostly just uses them as talking points and making a great theatrical ploy that is withiout substance. BTW, for all those who think this sort of thing is all about “patriotism”: McCain didn’t wear a flag pin on his lapel for the debate.
McCain is a thorough warmonger who graduated FIFTH from the bottom of his class at the Annapolis Naval Academy; he wouldn’t have even been enrolled except because of his father and grandfather’s both haing been admirals in the US Navy. Rather similar topGeorge W. Bush skating into Yale because his daddy was a famous alumnus, isn’t it?
But most of all I refuse to vote for a politicval philosphy with the consistent repeated statement, “There will ALWAYS be wars.”
267. Joe Lieden | 09.30.08
# 261
There will always be wars, check a history book. McCain is for veterans. He opposed the original GI plan because it was for 3 years of service and the initial contract for military service is 8 years. He submitted one with Sen Graham that had a sliding scale for time served to put a value on service. He supporting the bill that passed after stipulations for time in service were added in the war funding bill (Dems like to add bills to others so if it’s put down by Repub’s they can use it for political gain.) As for women’s choice, he said “I’d love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.” He supports it for rape, incest and risk to mothers health. I’d ask why the good Christian Obama doesn’t support life and why is it ok for a woman to play God and decide on the life two people created? Her body is a sad and sorry excuse. I’m sure a child would rather be a mistake then dead but I guess that’s not an option for them. Abortion as birth control is not an answer.
268. Kathy | 09.30.08
Just 2 questions - Are you better off today than you were 8 years ago? Can America afford 4 more years of the same failed policies? The answer to both questions is NO which leads to this conclusion - Say NO to Mc Cain/Palin
VOTE FOR OBAMA/BIDEN
Mc Cain/Palin will continue the same failed policies which got us to where we are today. Neither is the “maverick” as claimed! Both continue to distort the truth and tell outright lies. Mc Cain will do ANYTHING to become President - and I shudder to even think of Palin being one heartbeat away from the Presidency! What a debacle! Mc Cain’s choice of Palin speaks volumes about his decision making skills - poor or nonexistent. I hope America is not fooled by this old man and his right wing running mate!!!! GO OBAMA/BIDEN to bring integrity back to the White House.
269. fltnsplr | 10.04.08
Here’s a howler from good ol’ Vince Foster, who thinks he knows everything:
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41. Vince Foster | 09.29.08
Ha..you guys think Palin is stupid, but Biden thought there was Television in ‘29.
Yeah thats just Joe being Joe. ( MORON ! )
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First of all, good buddy, you’re the fool who never learned how to use an apostrophe “thats just Joe being Joe”.
However, that’s just obsessing over a fine point of punctuation. It would indeed appear that television was INVENTED in the twenties. The two major breakthroughs were achieved by John Logie Baird, a Scotsman, who first publicly demonstrated his mechanical system in 1925 in London, and by Philo Farnsworth, an American, who displayed his electronic system around 1928 in San Francisco. You could look it up…
So you, Mr. Vince Foster, Know-it-all-at-large, are the idiot, not Joe Biden.
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1. Sanjoy Das | 09.29.08
McCain has added a new twist to his campaign statement: “Country First”. When his campaign tanks, he got the entire US economy down with him!
He has shown remarkably poor judgment by selecting Palin as his running mate. Even if Palin were to actually do relatively well in Thursday’s debate, that is because she had so many days to cram and regurgitate policies on the podium. He incompetence is proven already, nothing can change it.