Main street view: Vinton County, the poorest in Ohio, has voted Republican in recent years. Lately, however, many people here are leaning toward Barack Obama – wanting change. (Melanie Stetson Freeman/The Christian Science Monitor)
Obama gaining among rural voters
Southeast Ohio, where many small communities are economically hard-hit, may be a bellwether.
By Alexandra Marks | October 13, 2008 edition
Reporter Alexandra Marks discusses why Barack Obama's campaign is gaining steam in Ohio.
Rich Clabaugh – Staff
McArthur, Ohio
Barack Obama is gaining support in the rural, conservative town of McArthur, Ohio, reflecting nationwide trends in which the Illinois senator has been consolidating support among independents and in some traditional Republican strongholds.With just three weeks until the election, political analysts say absent an October surprise it will be difficult for Republican John McCain to turn things around. That’s a challenge his campaign, which has been written off before, says it is delighted to take up.
But the test before McCain is stark, even here in Vinton County in the rumpled Appalachian hills of southeast Ohio where George W. Bush won by 10 points in 2004.
It’s an area with strong beliefs about such issues as gay marriage and abortion, but one that also faces severe economic challenges.
When social issues dominate the agenda, Republicans tend to do well here. When the economy dominates, the Democrats can mount serious challenges. That’s what Obama is doing here.
In the past four days, both McCain and Obama have campaigned here. Obama has even chosen to prepare for Wednesday night’s debate here in Ohio.
The economy and the financial crisis top most voters’ agendas here, as they do nationwide.
The Buckeye State has long been a national bellwether, crucial to winning the White House. No Republican candidate has ever won the presidency without winning Ohio’s 20 electoral votes. And no Democrat has done so either, at least in recent history.
“It’s a bellwether state for a reason: because it really does look like America,” says Michael Burton, a professor of political science at Ohio University in Athens. “There’s a northeast that looks like the Northeast, there is a western side that looks like the Midwest and a southern tier that has a very Southern feel to it.”
That’s evident here on Main Street in McArthur. It’s the county seat. It has one stoplight. The old brick court house sits across from the Main Street Diner and the Hotel McArthur.
The median income in the county is $25,000. That’s one reason Patty Elkins, who owns the diner, says she can’t raise her prices. A grilled cheese sandwich costs $1.50. It’s also the reason, she believes, Democrat Obama has traction here.
“This is a very poor part of the country and Ohio – it’s the poorest,” says Ms. Elkins, whose family has owned the diner since 1984. “People here are ready for change, they just can’t afford higher oil prices, higher food prices – they just can’t afford it - so they’re leaning toward someone that’s saying: ‘I’m going to take care of the economy, I’m going to take care of the healthcare system and try to straighten this out.’”
Laura Harms and her daughter Jennifer were having lunch in a booth nearby. Ms. Harms comes from a “staunch, very staunch Republican” family.
“You go in and you check the little box so you vote only straight Republican,” she says.
But Harms has always had an independent streak. She says she likes to vote for the best person. In 2004, George W. Bush got her vote. But this year, as far as she’s concerned, the best man is Obama, and both she and her daughter are voting for him.
“Right now I’m so ticked by the way Republicans are doing things,” she says. “[And] when McCain was asked how many houses he owned and he said, ‘I don’t know,’ I was like, ‘Whoa! Forget you buddy, you can’t even begin to identify with me and my daughters.”
Just around the corner from the diner is the Republican headquarters for Vinton County. It’s a small storefront festooned in red, white, and blue with yard signs for statewide Republicans stacked out front. Cecil Reid, who was minding the shop, says they ran out of McCain/Palin yard signs a couple of days ago. He says the county is changing, but he believes McCain will still do well here, primarily because he believes Obama could never identify with lots of people here.
“I’m a Christian and I definitely believe Obama’s got Muslim in him, I don’t go for that,” says Mr. Reid, a retired county employee who now works part time at a grocery store. “Plus McCain has the experience and I believe he can bring us out of this economy.”
Reid believes the strength of the fundamentalist Christian movement here could ultimately help McCain. Indeed, one reason George W. Bush had a 10-point margin here in 2004 is because of a gay marriage amendment on the ballot.
“The turnout in places like Vinton County and southeast Ohio spiked in large part because of very smart political organizing around the gay marriage amendment,” says Professor Burton. “That significantly helped Republicans like Bush.”
Another social issue for some people here is race. Aaron Brooks, who was heading to an appointment at the county courthouse, says he’s a Democrat but he’s supporting McCain over Obama. “He’s black,” says Mr. Brooks. “It’s not that I don’t think he’ll do a good job; it’s just that I don’t think he’ll do a good job for us white people. That’s just the way I feel.”
Pollsters have also picked up lingering questions among some voters about Obama’s race. But they believe this campaign will come down to economic issues. They also believe Obama’s candidacy could in the end have a healing effect.
“These are the last vestiges of racial bigotry in this country,” says pollster John Zogby, author of “The Way We’ll Be” about the direction of the country. “But as the election goes, there’s no question the financial crisis of the last few weeks has really undercut McCain/Palin.”
Recent polls here have Obama ahead by as much as five percent. But 6 percent are still undecided. Tressa Sexton is one of them. She’s a registered Republican, she says “only because of my husband.” But she says she’s really a Democrat. She’s still not sure who she’s going to vote for, in part, because she doesn’t trust politicians in general.
“They can say what they want to say, but if you look at the economy over the last few years it’s all been for the big people,” she says.
Meanwhile, the Marist Poll reported Monday that the presidential race across Ohio “is no longer a statistical dead heat.”
Among registered voters, Obama now outpaces McCain 48 percent to 40 percent. Among likely voters including those who are undecided yet leaning toward a candidate, Obama has 49 percent compared with 45 percent for McCain.
Comments
2. Chowski | 10.13.08
As there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no Conservatives after 30 years of Reaganomics.
3. Tom Williams | 10.13.08
Even people, who object to homosexuals being socially stable through marriage or like “Aaron” mentioned you just can’t trust the black man, will vote for food on the table and a roof over their heads. The majority might just have had enough of right wing incompetence if not their prejudices.
4. Mike Bettencourt | 10.13.08
I’m just in disbelief that some people still think Obama is Muslim. For that matter, are we still not evolved enough to let that affect our vote even if it were true ? I guess the statement from the man who has trouble with black people answers that question for me. It’s no wonder that aliens from other worlds haven’t made contact with us yet. If i were fron another planet and observed how we humans got along, i’d be wondering what they would think of my green skin.
5. JD | 10.13.08
“He’s Muslim…and…he’s black.” Leave it the the racist bigots in Ohio to decide yet another election. You all should be ashamed to live in Ohio.
6. 1944victoriam | 10.13.08
Aaron Brooks is a racist, pure and simple. But Obama is not….his Mother was white, his Grandparents were white, half his family is white and millions of his supporters, lie me are white. He identifies with struggling middle class families because he came from one. He got through Harvard on loans and grants, just like my kids did. To thin that a filthy rich Republican with so many houses he can’t even remember how many he has could identify with us is plain ludicrous. Mr, Brooks, rest assured, Obama will help you even though you hate him.
7. steve | 10.13.08
“I’m a Christian and I definitely believe Obama’s got Muslim in him, I don’t go for that,” says Mr. Reid, a retired county employee who now works part time at a grocery store. “Plus McCain has the experience and I believe he can bring us out of this economy.”
Reid believes the strength of the fundamentalist Christian movement here could ultimately help McCain. Indeed, one reason George W. Bush had a 10-point margin here in 2004 is because of a gay marriage amendment on the ballot.
I didn’t put the other quote from the Democratic racist, but find them truly revealing of McCain supporters. McCain’s peeps have been playing on that, but playing dumb as well, acting as if they are innocent.
I hope Zogby is right and this stuff starts to go away.
8. Oklahoma independent | 10.13.08
I think independents are seeing who is better for a new change in a POSITIVE direction for America. Obama 08!
9. edeldoug | 10.13.08
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1445/pub_detail.asp
Information explosive enough to be a game changer!
10. rupunzel | 10.13.08
Has the folks in this small Ohio town ever considered much of their economic problems and poverty is due to their narrowed minded conservative ways and religious beliefs? Innovation and conservationism don’t always work well together as history has proven many times before. These folks have every right to live the lives they currently have and nothing should be done to change their way of life, but as long as they continue to hang on to their ways the way they do, this town will change little and their economy will remain the way it has always been. Isolation really does have a price.
11. Tom | 10.13.08
Many have spoken to say if Obama was more white looking he would be winning by a landslide. My hope is those caught in the middle (like myself who risks getting my tires slashed in my county if i had an obama sticker) will “open their eyes, and look within” and remember that NOBODY knows what button you push in that voting booth. So vote with your mind and your heart together for either candidate. McCain has already planted “fear” seeds in the minds of people last week, now this week declares the “high road” to win you over. Sneaky sneaky sneaky… but how come no solutions to the economy McCain? Ah well, g’nite.
12. oh please | 10.13.08
Technically, Obama does have Muslim in him. His father was Muslim. My question “WHY DOES IT MATTER?” People are soooooooooo ignorant!
13. Keal | 10.13.08
Let me just say that I am so sick of people saying that Barack Obama is a Muslim, I don’t know what to do. They want to find all kind of dirt and background about the man instead of talking about important issues that will help fellow Americas. Why can’t we get straight to the issues. That is the same old “Washington Politics” that Obama was talking about. People who won’t vote for him because he is black; fine!!! That is good. You are just one person compared to America. The United States of America is suppose to be the “land of the free” but we still have people who don’t want to see a black man succeed. Well I got news for you, Barack Obama will be THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES… whether you like it or not and many do.
14. J Brian Horton | 10.13.08
“He’s black,” says Mr. Brooks. “It’s not that I don’t think he’ll do a good job; it’s just that I don’t think he’ll do a good job for us white people. That’s just the way I feel.”
These are the people who give my race a bad name. Everyone should be ashamed to live in Ohio! This is why I will never raise my kids in my home state.
15. kb | 10.13.08
The party of religion forgot one thing.
Whatever you do to…………
Cut welfare in the 90’s yes I agreed.
Turn around and give it to the wealthy in tax cuts
I don’t agree.
We can trick man not GOD
17. Creamsykle | 10.13.08
I live in a little town called New Carlisle in Ohio. I am voting for Obama, but I know if I put an Obama sign in my yard or a bumper sticker on my car people around here would destroy my property. Racism runs deep around here no question about that, just know that some of us are not as ignorant as others here in Ohio. If you ask most of the people I know who are voting for McCain why they are… the answers would certianly send chills up your spine. No good reasons except fear and hate.
18. stephane mot | 10.13.08
Barack Hussein is an American name. It has exactly the same origin as John, Joe or Sarah : http://e-blogules.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-ben-barack-hussein-james-thomas.html
Beyond rural America, John McCain himself has a problem with race :
- When McCain answers “no, madam, he’s a decent family man and citizen” to the false accusation that Obama is Arab, it clearly means that he doesn’t consider Arabs as decent family people and citizens.
- This is a man who during the 80s, used to “pal around” with ultra-right-wing radicals at the USCWF (people dubbed as “Nazis” in certain circles), a man who paid more than 180ks in consulting fees to Richard Quinn, a white supremacist, during his 2000 campaign…
19. JO | 10.13.08
Technically or not, Obama does not have a Muslim in him as religion/faith is neither inherited nor genetic. It’s an individual’s choice. It’s sad to think that there are a number of people out there who still vote along the lines of race and religion. It’s sad because those are the same people who have been most affected by the reckless economic policies of the last 8 years. They vote for all the wrong reasons and against their kitchen table issues. I hope there will be enough people in this country that realize that we are at the brink of either falling into a depression or coming out of this economic hardships and taking a better course. We cant afford a leadership that makes decisions as they go.
Obama/Biden08
20. Marc | 10.13.08
‘Muslim’ is not carried in the genes, just as ‘christianity’ or ‘buddhism’ for that matter are not inherited traits. So the fact that Obama’s father, who he barely knew grewing up, was a muslim doesn’t apriori mean a darn thing about Obama. But that’s good rational, scientific fact-based thinking and I’m afraid that doesn’t mean anything to some good, ’salt of the earth’ folks in Ohio.
It’s embarassing that in the 21st century, here in America, we still have people this ignorant. And yes, that is the word for it.
21. Ardmore | 10.13.08
Actually, Obama’s father was an atheist, not a Muslim. He was not enamored of any religion. Not that it matters…. He was black and that’s enough for these yahoos to vote against their own self interest.
22. John M | 10.13.08
Brooks and Reid — Ouch! I thought these people only existed in old, outdated movies. They’re exactly the kind of people that need the education Obama has been espousing! I’m a registered Republican but Bush/McCain have done the party, the economy, and our good American name an injustice all while Bin Laden is still skipping around the hills of Pakistan, seven years after 9/11.
23. Eric | 10.13.08
Tom wrote that, “Technically, Obama does have some Muslim in him. His father was Muslim.”
This does not make any sense. Technically, being muslim means being a member of a religion. Membership in a religion is not something passed on genetically. Ethnicity or race can be passed on genetically, but not religion. Obama is not a Muslim, although he is black because his father was black.
24. CT | 10.13.08
JD says:
He’s Muslim…and…he’s black.” Leave it the the racist bigots in Ohio to decide yet another election. You all should be ashamed to live in Ohio.”
JD, don’t you realize you’re doing exactly what you’re pointing your finger at in disgust? Stereotyping is a form of racism. How can everyone in Ohio be held responsible for these people’s opinions? Maybe, hopefully, some day you’ll follow Obama’s example and practice tolerance and open-mindedness.
25. Steve Barry | 10.13.08
“Technically, Obama does have Muslim in him. His father was Muslim.”
Wrong. Muslim isn’t an ethnicity, it’s a religion.
But your right, it doesn’t matter if he or were Muslim.
26. stephanie | 10.13.08
Oh, people get a clue! I’m so tired of hearing you bashing some narrow minded individuals by stereotyping us Christians. It’s WRONG to KILL any innocent baby and how anyone would support that is beyond me. Do you not have any diginity? You cry human rights but what about the rights of the unborn??? My vote is for McCain because he has morals and the experience.
27. SWashington | 10.13.08
Oh boy, what ignorance layeth at the feet of the stupid. Muslim is a religion not a genetic trait. I will pray for these people in Ohio, who vote against their best interest!
28. Richard | 10.13.08
Since when is a person’s religious belief part of their DNA.
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How can a person have Muslim, Christian, Hindu, or Jewish in them.
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Religious beliefs are and issues of personal choice not genetics.
29. LA | 10.13.08
It is so very sad to see that so many people in this country in the now 21st century, are still so closed minded and willing to let others think for themselves. Is this what they believe a leader entails: those who promote hate, fear, division, blame, slander and mistrust of our fellow Americans. Senator Obama is a United States Senator and yet this doesn’t seem to register with these people that if he were as dangerous as he has been portrayed the US Government, US Senate would be outraged, of which they are definitely not!!
Obama is Christian, a family man, well educated and one that is dedicated to and has fought for the underserved and middleclass of this country.
I beseech you to please take the time to truly listen, really listen, to him, his message and his words without prejudice. By doing so hopefully it will help you to see the true man, behind the color, lies and slander, for what he truly is, a real leader who cares about this country and has our best interest at heart. Something we both desperately need and have been deprived of for a very long time. It is hard to know authenticity when counterfits have been in power for so very long.
If someone were giving you a life preserver while you were drowning would you really care what color skin they had? NO!
30. Kathy4change | 10.13.08
One would hope that residents in Ohio realize that AMERICANS come in all colors and with many different religious backgrounds. BARACK OBAMA IS AN AMERICAN. That is all that should matter - I repeat - BARACK OBAMA IS AN AMERICAN! OH, AND A SMART ONE AT THAT,
I think what matters most is that he is the best man to get us out of the mess we are now in - the result of incompetence in the White House for the last 8 years. Let’s get beyond all the MUD being spun and get down to the facts - who is better equipped to lead us?
John Mc Cain - graduated 5th from the bottom of his class at Annapolis - got into the Acadamy on the coattails of his father and grandfather
or
Barack Obama - graduated from Harvard - got in on his merit - while there was head of the Harvard Law Review
BARACK OBAMA WINS HANDS DOWN! He will reach across the aisles to bring unity to this great country. Just look at how he has responded to the mud Mc Cain and Palin sling - he doesn’t even flinch - he stays the course. That in itself speaks volumes about his character, strength and ability.
WAKE UP OHIO AND WAKE UP AMERICA - VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN
31. HelpThemSeetheLight | 10.13.08
John McCain says he’s Christian yet he’s not Born Again nor has he ever been Baptised. http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1018/p01s06-uspo.html
Personally, I’m not questioning his faith. That’s a matter between him and God. However, I am questioning Christians who do not accept Barack Obama at his word that he believes Jesus is Lord. “Judge not that ye be not judged.”
Regardless, being a Muslim or having “some in him” is not brought about by genetics; it’s a matter of faith. I have studied a little about other religions: Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Samaritanism, Quakerism, Paganism — out of curiosity, comparing differences and similarities, and simply to be able to converse a little with people of other faiths who I’ve met.
However, the hardest religious people for me to understand are Christians –yet I’m Christian! These can be some of the meanest, most hateful, violent, perverse, LYING, ignorant, unforgiving, unrepentant,… I can go on and on.
“Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity.”
And freedom and justice for all.
32. TOD | 10.13.08
[but if you look at the economy over the last few years it’s all been for the [big people
That’s totally true… During 8 years big companies got their BIG taxes cut..
Now It’s time for fairness, Obama wants to restore fairness in the system..
It’s now time to help American people and small business..
Obama/Biden 08
33. omar | 10.13.08
and you call this part of ohio the heartland? damn! question for these ignorant religious freaks: the last 8 years we have been run into the ground by their very religious, ignorant republican president…which party has been in power and what presidnet is it? WAKE UP IDIOTS!
34. NJ | 10.13.08
First of, no one can “have” muslim or christain in them. Second, Obama’s father was not muslim..get your facts right.
35. Amber | 10.13.08
After reading that I am not ashamed to be an Ohioan, but I am ashamed of those two bigots who are also from Ohio. Unfortunately, there are plenty more who think like them. What boggles my mind is that in the year 2008 in the United States of America, a man could think it’s even vaguely acceptable to offer race and religion as reasons to distrust or dislike another person. It is absolutely baffling and disheartening. But success is the sweetest revenge they say, so those old racist country folk can just eat their hats along with their words when Barack Obama shows them just what a great president a black man with “Muslim in him” (as if it’s genetic rather then a religious choice) can really be.
36. dotty | 10.14.08
Obama stated on ABC that he wanted John Mc cain to question him about his Muslim religion.
Obama had been to 57 of the United States and had one more to go because he wasn’t going to Hawaii and Alaska remember?
ODD don’t you think?
No lapel flag pin and no hand over the heart to salute the flag….is it Obama that is the ODD American or the Americans who think he is ODD for a leader of the free world?
Do you think the 57 state thing is a reflection of intellect?
38. Joe Texas | 10.14.08
I feel for Tom who left a message above saying his was fearful his tires would get slashed if he had an Obama sticker on his car. In my town i feel the same way. It is shameful that so many Americans are bigoted and racist. What happened to the ideals of America i used to know? Why are people attacking the American dream?
Obama worked his way to the top, he was not born into a well to do family, nor was he handed a degree for completion at Harvard. On the contrary Barack Obama has inspired a generation of Americans to the likes of which i have never seen. Obama has espoused the qualities of humility, dignity, and character. In my opinion Barack Obama has the right character and experience to be president.
God Bless
39. atul | 10.14.08
If anything, having exposure to the Muslim faith would be a good thing. It gives him a more rounded perspective of the situation. He’s spent far far more time with the Christian church when he was old enough to have a choice. I’m way more interested in the candidate’s vision for the future, and I believe Obama’s is more lucid and he is better equipped to carry it out.
40. Pedro Diego | 10.14.08
McC like the Republicans before him understands that none of his predecessors ever lost an election by underestimating the stupidity (read ignorance)of the American people. Perhaps Obama is overestimating their intelligence in this day and age to.
41. Catherine | 10.14.08
ARE PEOPLE GOING NUTS IN THIS COUNTRY? They seem to be losing it? OR is just the LIBERAL press trying to make this election theirs?
“The black hole of Obama will suck you in through the awesome power of its totally cool O”…..look into that HOLE, that black hole….
What’s in there???
You’ve got it…NOTHING, it’s empty.
That’s Obama….empty…
OBAMA = PURE RHETORIC
43. Sean Collins | 10.14.08
“Technically, Obama does have Muslim in him. His father was Muslim. My question “WHY DOES IT MATTER?” People are soooooooooo ignorant!”
Well technically, his grandfather was muslim(not radical)…father was an agnostic, but I understand the larger point. I agree that it should not matter, what ever happened to freedom of religion in this country and it makes me so frustrated that people in this great country are so damn ignorant and uninformed. Nobody likes what extreme radical muslims did on 9/11, but there are millions of muslims who want to practice their faith in peace.
44. Boomer55 | 10.14.08
Hello Folks. So Obama is 1/2 black - there goes the community. Obama is also highly intelligent, innovative, a visionary with the best interests of our County in heart. I do not think that anyone can justify attacking his patriotism because he found himself a few times amongst people who have been branded as radicals. But, then again, maybe that ain’t such a bad thing after all. I once found myself speaking with someone who stated that they were affiliated with some GOP Committee that was in town. I could not resist the urge to turn completely around to see if anyone was watching me. Who knows, this persons could end up one day on Fox News and if anyone should later connect the two of us together, I could see myself spending the next several months denying that I was not a closet Neocon attempting to inject myself into the bastions of traditional liberal thought that pervades my surroudings screaming “repent while you can”. OMG. Way too funny. But then again, it could have been a bad dream.
45. pogo | 10.14.08
being Muslim means you pray three times a day– for those who aren’t yet thankful for what they got, that’s a step in the right direction; but whether or not Obama is or is not Christian should not be an issue in a country where Freedom of Worship is part of the Bill of Rights. The man has brains, courage and dignity and cares about the common man, the poor and the homeless of America. He’s been on the bottom and seen what its like nd he has an outstanding VP partner who is knowledgeable in international relations. And moreover, they don’t have to use incendiary speeches or fan hatred and racism. They are not into divisive politics. And he’s not running a beauty contest. He’s a man for all seasons. If anyone is going to understand the sufferings of America’s poor and middleclass it will be him because he came from the bottom and lived with and confronted prejudice all of his life. But who wants a President in the WH who spews and encourages divisive politics, racial hatred and fury in a time of economic crisis and can slander his fellow man through guilt by association and McCarthyism and a VP who cannot write a single simple correct English sentence. Moose-skinning and shooting down wolves from a airplane aren’t executive qualities. Is illiteracy a virtue for executive leadership?
46. Jonathan | 10.14.08
It is scary how America changed. With all this speculation about him being or not being a Muslim, how do you think American Muslims are feeling? They are sadly turning in our time’s Jews.
47. phx_guy | 10.14.08
where did the “Obama is a Muslim” angle come from? This NYTimes article reveals the source, and it’s none too pretty. Fox News built a documentary segment around the incendiary comments of Andy Martin, trying to smear Obama. Figures… Andy Martin is a crackpot. Good job Fox News (NOT!)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
48. toms | 10.14.08
Mr Reid and Mr Brooks in Ohio reflect the narrow mindedness and bigotry that still exists in this country. It is sad but true. I do, however, have hope for the future in children that grow up and move away from towns like this and experience the wider more diverse world. Coming from a small conservative midwest town, it is not unusual for the locals to blame “the big city” or “liberals” for “changing” their children when in fact all that has occurred is that their children are now more open minded when they return home. I see it all the time.
49. Mattox | 10.14.08
A positive Ad Hominem argument is still a logical fallacy. Claiming Obama is “an intelligent man with vision who can identify with me because he was poor once” says absolutely nothing about his policies and shouldn’t be used to support his arguments. By the same token, claiming John McCain “has experience and will be able to lead the country better because of it” is an argument from authority.
If you support Barrack Obama so much, adopt his style of argumentation by avoiding all logical fallacies, including the positive ones. Discuss his rhetoric, compare them to that of his opponent. But don’t get wrapped in up in ignorant politics.
50. Katie Christmas | 10.14.08
I live in Columbus, the capital of Ohio. Vinton County has long been the capital of the poor and uneducated in this state. As a Catholic I hear of Vinton often, as the diocese collects money, food and even gifts at Christmas time to be sent to southeastern Ohio. This article interested me because it has shown that the Obama campaign is making headway in Vinton, something I was sure would never happen. Until now I have been astonished that the people of Vinton have not opened their eyes and supported a candidate that is promising progress for THEM. I know Obama’s race will be an issue in this part of the state. But I was interested to read the comment about the man who “knows Obama has Muslim in him”. I suppose it has become unacceptable to state that you are predjudiced against black people but it is currently acceptable to hold predjudice against Muslims. I also find it interesting that “Muslim” is not considered a religion or faith but in fact a genetic defect that makes Mr. Obama an unacceptable candidate. I truly hope the people of Vinton can see that Mr. Obama is working to improve the lives of people just like them and that they can transcend their deep set feelings toward those who look different than themselves.
51. sherry | 10.14.08
Inbreeding at its best. I live in Dayton, ohio and I am so embarrassed by the state I live in. If these little hick towns are willing to lose everything by voting for Bush Jr. simply because Obama is black then you deserve everything you get! It doesn’t matter if the president is green or blue all that matters is how you will work for me and my family. Change is coming alright- Obama/Biden 08!!!!
52. dnono | 10.14.08
A few points to make:
1. Racism exists everywhere in this country, not just Ohio. So please stop thinking that these two voices speak for all of Ohio.
2. The fact that Obama is doing as well as he is in Ohio, Indiana, Virginia, etc. does attest to the fact that most people are beginning to wake up and think about the issues more than the slapped-on labels and yes, even skin color.
3. Belittling the people that live in these areas does a greater disservice to the Democratic push and only provides more fodder for those that would play up the divisive politics. Stop thinking that you’re better than someone else (trust me, you’re not) just because you can see the ‘truth’ that they can’t.
53. Geoff | 10.14.08
Believe me, I AM embarrassed to live in Ohio. I’m even more embarrassed that within my own family, there are people who think as these Ohioans in the article do. If you drive along the rural communities in Ohio these days, you see mostly McCain signs and even a few which read: SARAH!. The houses with McCain signs in these areas are falling down and the people are very poor. But they stubbornly stick to their guns and their “pro-life” signs and that’s all that matters to them. They are too stubborn and yes, uneducated, to realize that it is irrational to support candidates whose economic policies work AGAINST them. For now, family obligations keep me in this backwards state which has shed 280,000 jobs. But when these obligations are gone, I’m going to leave this God-forsaken state.
54. David Lee | 10.14.08
Obama has little experiance with anything,like Palin.But why does the media play that everyone wants change and that Obama can do this.McCain offers more as a leader as Biden does then those two players.The only reason Obama won was because Demo’s did not want another Clinton era.If Obama had credibility as a dynamic leader and a manager,then he might be able to do something.Palin is just as green as Obama,but is more stable and will make a great vice president,Obama dropped the ball when he turned down the Clinton offer to be vice president.The fault lies in the reverie of the Democrats,who will fiddle as Rome burns.
56. Alan | 10.14.08
It is amazing to me how America’s ignorant peasants vote against their own well being and self interests, time and time again, generation after sharecropper generation. In today’s viral, globally connected economy you have to know or at least have some basic sense of awareness of the wider world around you, where you are in it, how your society got to where it is, and how one force impacts another around the world. Otherwise, you’re forever gullible, mystified by even the obvious, easily misled and preyed upon. Ignorance and poverty go hand in hand. Education will cure ignorance, but there’s no antidote for stupidity, i.e., purposely choosing the same known failure path over and over again. Those people are prisoners of their own fear and ignorance and bring their suffering upon themselves. They have way more power to change their own condition than they’ll ever recognize, but first they have to change their own minds and attitudes.
57. coronada_xv | 10.14.08
Millions of America’s young people are responsible, moral, and good students. They do not deserve a President McCain who was 894th in a class of 899. McCain, widely known as a womanizer, married Cindy one month after he broke up his first family. Cindy, the daughter of a very rich beer distributor, confessed to drug addiction and to stealing drugs.
Our young people do not deserve a V.P. whose unmarried, pregnant teenage daughter is practically glorified by the right . Sarah Palin and John McCain have both been charged with ethics violations. They are also guilty of lying and smearing. The tabloids won’t need to find fresh material for years to come with McCain, Cindy, and Palin in the White House. Morally and academically, the Obamas are the opposite of McCain and Palin.
So, I don’t understand why so many conservative preachers and church goers will vote for these two? Both candidates oppose gay marriage and McCain has supported abortion. Obama supports the Faith-Based Initiative. This Administration and this Congress have not preserved our treasury, our international reputation nor our environment.
McCain is unstable, erratic. I have confidence in Obama’s stability, good sense and compassion.
58. Courtney | 10.14.08
People need to expand their minds. This is really sad that people rather focus on anothers race. I am an American. An american with so many different races in my background and to base your selection for this election on someones race is truly demeaning and ignorant. The republican party is telling their party false lies and that’s what their campaign has been doing for the longest. Guilty by association? Palling around with terriorists? Come on people.. Mccain/Palin straight talk campaign has lost a few wheels.. They even admitted that if they talk about the economy they are going to lose.. Do we really want someone like this as our president? So get over the color of someones skin and look at the facts. Obama is the one for the job.
Obama/Biden 2008
59. Kevin | 10.14.08
I can’t see how the poor people in Ohio could support the Republican party or candidate whose “trickle down economics” have never trickled down to the people in Ohio. The Democratic party has a history of caring about the poor and in creating jobs (which Ohio badly needs). So I hope the good people of Ohio will look at the big picture. It is not the Republican party and McCain/Palin that will remember them after the election. They are just trying to use them to get elected and then will forget about them again until the next election.
60. Laura | 10.14.08
Do not judge Southeastern Ohio by the comments made by Mr. Reid or Mr. Brooks both are living in the past. Overall, I belief SE Ohio realizes that changes need to be made and McCain is not the man for the job.
The people is our area are intelligent,good hearted and would help their neighbors when they are down and out. The fact they are a few who do not know the facts about our political candidates and who chose to think race would influence a future presidents’ decision is just sad.
61. Gauche | 10.14.08
“Another social issue for some people here is race.”
Race is not a social issue. By calling it that, the Christian Science Monitor elevates Mr. Brooks’ sentiments above mere racism to the level of a legitimate campaign issue.
62. Dave | 10.14.08
If these people in Ohio are all Republicans, why are they so poor and needy? I don’t get it.
63. FriendlyFred | 10.14.08
Yep, Obama is gaining, and doing well in battleground states. Christopher Buckley has resigned over his Obama support too, things are getting crazy in the political world.
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/christopher-buckley-resigns-over-obama.html
64. John Jones | 10.14.08
I for one am tired of the constant lies by McBush. Its pretty evident that Obama is clearly the lesser of the two evils.
Jiff
65. Nathan | 10.14.08
I live in central Ohio and I can say that not all Ohioans are bigoted, unread idiots like the people quoted in this article. On behalf of Ohio morons throughout the state, my apologizes.
66. Anny | 10.14.08
This is crazy - on one hand they say he is a Muslim. On the other hand they condemn him for Reverand Wright who is clearly Christian. Isn’t it obvious that economics plays a larger part of society than race or religion? A poor black person has less in common with rich black person than a Caucasion.
67. Iain | 10.14.08
The level of ignorance on display from a significant section of the Ohio population beggars belief! What’s even more terrifying is that some who would openly support their candidate of choice fear doing so in case it attract some vile form of retribution from baser elements of society — some democracy, eh?
It doesn’t occur to some that their own dire economic straits are the product of eight years of so-called conservative rule. It’s the clearest case of Stockholm Syndrome I’ve ever seen. And they want more. Have these people been lobotomised recently?
That some still believe Obama is Muslim despite all evidence to the contrary is utterly incredible. And the thought that some ‘Christians’ won’t vote for Obama because he’s black is just despicable. Some Christians, eh? They ought to be ashamed of themselves. So, rather than vote in the erudite young man with big ideas and a calming, unifying spirit, they’d sooner vote in a geriatric warmonger and a secessionist, intellectually challenge nutjob.
Only in America!
69. Rachel | 10.14.08
Just to clear to up a few things…
I am from Vinton County, Ohio. I have lived there my entire life until I moved to Dayton to attend Wright State University. Oh, are you surprised that I went to college? Did you know that Vinton County High School has done consistently better in statewide testing than schools in the richer, surrounding counties?
By the way, I was Valedictorian of my high school class of 187, and I’m pre-med at Wright State. I think I’ve earned the right to say that I’m not an “ignorant peasant,” like some would have you believe.
I am disgusted by the comments that I have read because NOT EVERYBODY IN VINTON COUNTY THINKS THE SAME WAY AND HAS THE SAME FEELINGS AS THE PEOPLE IN THE ARTICLE!!!
Yes, Vinton County is the least populated county in Ohio. That doesn’t mean that it only contains ignorant hicks… i.e. “OMG are these people even capable of bathing themself?”
Yes, we are fully capable. We have indoor plumbing, satellite tv, and *gasp* intelligence.
Yes, there are plenty of people in Vinton County who would agree with the statements made by people in the article. However, I can guarantee you that almost any town in America that you go to will have people who hold similar views.
To everyone who dismissed approximately 13,000 people based on a few carefully selected comments written solely to reinforce stereotypes:
Take your closed minded comments elsewhere and grow up! I AM DISGUSTED AND EMBARRASSED THAT A BUNCH OF ADULTS REFUSE TO THINK ANYTHING OTHER THAN HOW THE MEDIA PORTRAYS A CERTAIN SUBJECT IN ITS OWN SLANTED VIEWPOINT!!!
70. nickj01 | 10.15.08
I was just so amused to read that Obama wont do well by the white people, and has Bush ??
71. Colette Jurcevich | 10.15.08
There is a sad fact that chronic racism still remains at a higher percentage in small towns all across these United States of America. I think a lot of it has to do with age and not being exposed to other races on a regular basis, and this goes both ways. I am a 51 year old white female, who lives in a small town, but I am progressive in my thinking, which is not that unusual, but some in my age group are still racist to some degree. In my parents’ generation, there are many more who are racist to a higher degree. My sons’ generation is different… more tolerant and accepting. Hopefully the following generation will be even more accepting to others that are not like them. I think the human race is evolving socially and intellectually in these areas. Another sad fact is that racism was man made…yes, man made and it’s taking such a long time to undo what man has done…lifetimes in fact. Until everyone on this earth is valued equally, and I mean women and children too, we are not truly human. Hopefully things will change and we can and will learn to accept and live together in this country and on this planet together in PEACE whether you are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, Atheist, Agnostic, Black, Asian, White, Latin, female, male, young, old, straight or gay. It all has to go into history, so we as a human race can really live life to our fullest potential. Life is too short for generations to deal with this issue much longer. Barrack Obama is the one who CAN and WILL start us in that direction if he has a chance.
72. Kevin | 10.15.08
I’ve campaigned in SE Ohio and worked with the Vinton County Democratic Party. All it takes is for even the most liberal Democrat to show his face in McArthur and Democrats immediately narrow an initially huge gap to something not very big at all. Percentage-wise, it might still be 15%, but in a county that small, that’s not many votes. The Democrats in Vinton County are our natural constituency–poor Appalachians–and insulting them is the only sure-fire way to make them vote overwhelmingly Republican.
73. Owen Williams | 10.15.08
Ditto the western counties of Kansas. Poorest in the state, and maybe even the whole country, but vote solidly Republican because they are against abortion.
My favorite community is the city of Wyandotte, Michigan where you can see campaign signs of both parties in front lawns next door to each other – seems like everyone has a sign, but nobody is tearing down signs or slashing tires. That’s America.
74. Penni | 10.15.08
It’s kind of stunning that all of Vinton County is being utterly stereotyped and written off as ignorant (even the whole state of Ohio has been faulted by some posters!)based upon opinions expressed by just a few people here. There’s no doubt in my mind that a random polling of such a small number of folks in any small town in America might net nearly identical views. In spite of what has been said, I personally know a number of people here who have openly supported Obama with bumper stickers, signs in yards, etc., to no ill effect.
Our community is far more diverse than might be imagined, with many thoughtful, well-educated, and cultured people in both parties, and people here hold views that range from ultra-conservative to ultra-liberal. For all the bad press, it’s a pretty awesome place to live and raise a family. There are more than 2000 of us in McArthur alone - and approximately 14,000 of your fellow Aemricans living in Vinton County.
Would any who are reading this posting like to be assumed to have opinions and views identical to those of a half dozen people in their own communities? I kind of doubt it! Some of those who have posted should lighten up and know us better before making such blanket judgements!
76. Amy | 10.16.08
I am from Vinton County, Ohio and have lived here all my life, as for the negative comments about Obama not all of us feel that way!! So for the people who made the negative remarks about us people from Ohio you need to realize there is racism everywhere. However, there is also people like myself who can realize which person is the best for the job!!
So, when you stereotype all of us from Ohio on two people’s negative comment’s of Obama you are also portraying a form of racism.
Amy from VC
77. abales from MO | 10.16.08
I find it funny that most people that hate abortion love the death penalty. Can’t wait to kill them later on? Why not take a few pot shots at them sooner? I guess its more exciting that way? If I support both abortion and the death penalty do I get a free bonus pedistrian on the way to work with my car?
I think we should tax those in favor of upending Row VS Wade to pay for those 1.5 million neglected kids we will get each year on the tax rolls to help them. Don’t forget we will need a large prison tax too plus the other tax to house them. Not like those kids will have a job anyway, or parent that cares.
You want tax cuts? Keep abortion. If you are into welfare and support, ok, over turn it and put your money forward. I am ok with that. Put your money with your mouth. I don’t like it either, but am a realist enough to know a mountian of taxes when I see one.
Republicans - tight pursed morons who expect others to be good little robots.
78. James Chastain | 10.17.08
Neighboring Athens County is the only Ohio county Mc Govern carried in 1972. Plenty of fine, hardworking people in Vinton and Meigs County, but deeply polarized, not the least by rural hostility to coal mining unions and the nearby state university founded in 1804. The natural beauty of the lovely Appalachia is scared with abandoned coal mines. Athens traditionally has the lowest unemployment in Ohio and income at the bottom. These people often work two or three jobs and still have trouble making ends meet. And I welcome the message of hope in both this report and George Packer’s recent New Yorker report. Both see that times may be changing in Glouster, Pomeroy, and Mc Arthur. The Children of Light seem on the ascent.
79. Marly | 10.17.08
I am a very STRONG democrat. Sadly, I know of Mr. Reid. He is the last person I would judge our small community on. I am not saying there is not narrow minded, racist people in this county. But for most of you to blast us with your mean comments, aren’t you doing the same as Reid and Brooks? Because we are from the most economically depressed county in Ohio does not mean we are all racist pigs! I agree totally with Rachel and Laura! As far as Katie Christmas, the Catholic food pantry enables alot of our poor into not getting jobs! Why when some of them drive better vehicles than I. Oh yes I have seen the lines at the food pantries. Don’t get me wrong, I do not want anyone to go hungry, but if you would come and witness some of these giveaways you just might see another point of view. There are alot of highly educated people living in Vinton County. I for one am proud of our small community.
80. frank burns | 10.19.08
Narrow minded and bigoted people are not to be blamed for how they think — they actually imagine that they are good people, and better than the so-called cheese-eating educated elite. So, please don’t knock them too much. The best we can hope for is a more educated and enlightened nation in the future.
81. jboogie | 10.21.08
Stephanie, John McCain didn’t say he was going to make abortion illegal, he has never-ever said that. What he has said, is he didn’t agree with Roe-v-Wade, because he is a federalist, and he wanted the states to be able to decide if it would be legal in each respective state.
Stephanie, abortion is abhorent. I agree with you, but I also realize that if it was ever overturned abortions would still happen. What I appreciate about Sen. Obama stance is this — he isn’t in the business of vilifying the so-called Right-to-Life Movement, he understands the complexity of the issue. He also understands that the state shouldn’t have jurisdiction over a woman’s body. He wants to reduce unwanted pregnancies, provide resources for women so that they will be more compelled to continue their pregnancies, in essence, he seeks to be more profamily. I can’t say the same for Sen. McCain.
Also, respecting life doesn’t cease once a baby is born. Look at the complete policies and philosophies of the two candidates. Sen. Obama wins hands down when you look at respecting life.
82. Michels | 11.04.08
Our TX family owned rural businesses are closing their doors in anticipation of Obama’s tax agenda. CHANGE….CHANGE…..CHANGE…..OBAMA’s plan is already working….Ohio voters must be proud of yourselves. I’m sure Ohio will be one of the FIRST areas to get assistance for the poverty stricken in rural areas, right? Given his background Obama’s priority will be the urban poor….NOT the rural poor. It will be a cold day in **** before he helps poor folks in Hopulikit, Georgia or any other rural area. If you believe Obama’s propaganda given the little factual information that wasn’t suppressed by the media regarding Obama’s political history, then go ahead and listen for jingle bells….
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1. Tom Burnett | 10.13.08
“I’m a Christian and I definitely believe Obama’s got Muslim in him, I don’t go for that,” says Mr. Reid, a retired county employee who now works part time at a grocery store.
OMG are these people even capable of bathing themself?