McCain appears on Letterman show (for real)
By Jimmy Orr | 10.17.08
Supporters of John McCain campaign don’t even want to think what would have happened if the Republican nominee for President would have missed David Letterman’s show again.
It was possible. Air space was crowded yesterday afternoon. McCain’s plane wouldn’t land in time for the taping.
Not wanting the final three weeks of the campaign to be an even heightened McCain feeding frenzy on the popular late night show, the Arizona Senator helicoptered up to New York in time for the taping.
All McCain, all the time
McCain’s appearance was a perfect opportunity for Letterman to target the Republican nominee. Actually, his non-appearance provided many opportunities as well. Regardless, it was as the audience expected. A McCain-fest.
“Boy, you folks are here on a great night and I’ll tell you why – the entire balcony is filled with state troopers fired by Sarah Palin….there they are,” he began.
Introducing himself, as he always does, Letterman offered, “And by the way, I’m your host for the program. I’m Dave the Plumber.”
“How many of you saw the debate last night from Hofstra out there on Long Island,” he continued. “I wanna tell you, it was a different John McCain, wasn’t it? He was electric. He electrified the crowd. And afterwards, Cloris Leachman tossed him her hotel key.”
It didn’t stop there, of course. Plenty more jokes were had the expense of McCain before Letterman unveiled the top ten list for the evening.
The target? Not McCain. Close enough though. It was his new super-hero friend: Joe the quasi-plumber. We’ve included the entire top ten list at the bottom of this post.
Talk-talk
As for their conversation, the first few minutes were all about McCain’s infamous cancellation. From Letterman asking of McCain, “Can you stay?” Yes, said McCain.
To the simple question that brought down the house: “What exactly happened?” Letterman asked.
McCain appeared as guilty as a student in the principal’s office.
“I screwed up,” he grimaced.
Not good enough
“You called me an hour and a half [before the show] and said ‘We gotta get back to Washington.’ But you didn’t go right back to Washington,” Letterman said.
“What can I say,” McCain said. “It’s been reviewed pretty thoroughly.”
After Letterman said – to a much-relieved McCain – that he was “willing to put this behind us,” the two eventually moved off the topic of the cancellation and on to the campaign.
When McCain asked if the comic was going to be saddened at the conclusion of the presidential contest because of the comic fodder it provides, Letterman deadpanned, “We’re going off the air, John.”
The Plumber
“Joe the Plumber” – the new fixture of the McCain campaign – surfaced many times during the evening.
As to the current controversy over whether Joe’s taxes would actually increase under Obama’s tax plan, McCain received audience laughter and applause for his answer.
“Now’s not the time to raise anybody’s taxes – except yours,” he said pointing to Letterman. “And I guarantee you when I’m president, I’ll do it.”
Real friends
It was easy to see why McCain has appeared so many times on the Letterman show (last night was his 14th). The two have a genuine rapport and enjoy each other.
On the serious topic of finding Osama bin Laden, McCain said better human intelligence was needed – adding in a jab at Letterman.
“We have great satellites. We know a lot of your conversations,” he said.
Palin
The two talked about foreign affairs, Bill Ayers, G. Gordon Liddy, Tina Fey, and, repeatedly, McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin. Letterman pressed McCain on her qualifications.
“If you are unable to fulfill your office, we get a 9/11 attack, Sarah Palin is the president who leads us through that,” Letterman said.
After McCain mentioned her executive experience as Governor of Alaska, he drew conclusions to other governors who went on to the presidency.
“Look, in all due respect, one of the people I admire most was an obscure governor of a southern state called Arkansas,” he said of Bill Clinton. “And he turned out to be a fairly successful president. I mean, Ronald Reagan was a cowboy – no experience in international affairs. Look, I think she has shown leadership. I think she’s shown executive ability. And I think she has shown a degree of reform that we need – does anyone think we don’t need to clean up the mess in Washington?”
The Top Ten List, as promised
“Messages left on Joe the Plumber’s Answering Machine”
10. “Hey, heard you mentioned in the debate, now can you come over and get the hairball out of my drain?”
9. “Joe Six Pack calling; what are you trying to pull?”
8. “Sorry, wrong number. I was looking for Larry the Cable Guy.”
7. “Dude – did you get to meet Sallie Mae?”
6. “This is Sarah Palin, do you consider yourself a maverick plumber?”
5. “You had a better night than Joe the Dodgers Manager.”
4. “Hi, this is Bob Schieffer. Hijack one of my debates again and I’ll bust your kneecaps with a pipe wrench.”
3. “Joe, you gotta get a copy of this Late Show Fun Facts book – it’s hilarious!”
2. “It’s Brian from the Late Show, are you available tonight if McCain cancels?”
1. “It’s Madonna, are you seeing anybody?”
Here’s a link to the video.
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2. J.Jay | 10.17.08
I feel really bad for this regular joe the plumber who was minding his own business who exercised his right given by constitution to ask a leader a question and preferred to differ with answer. But now he finds himself in a position where his life story is out on the internet which he would have preferred to keep it private. If that wasn’t enough, His co-workers and co-professionals are disvowing him. Are media outlets as bad as McCain/Palin are showing them to be?
3. Alvin Graham | 10.17.08
Senator McCain proclaims America First.
He has stated that he knows how to get Osama Bin Laden. If he really knows, and if America First is deep within his being, why doesn’t he give us tell us now? Why would he allow more brave Americans to die unnecessarily while he keeps this valuable information to himself? Why wait until after the election? If he loses, will he tell us?
4. Audrey | 10.17.08
Au contraire Jay - he wasn’t minding his business at all. McCain should have kept Joe’s name out of the debate. The plumbers of America have every right to dismiss this guy. Joe’s no plumber… he’s just a guy who knows how to do plumbing work. And the nerve of him to whine about having to pay more taxes IF he decided to buy the company he is working, when he has a tax lien against him. Zero License + Tax Lien = “We (Joe & John) Screwed Up”
5. Dave the Accountant | 10.17.08
I feel bad for Joe the Plumber on some level…he didn’t ask for any of this. It was a legimate question to ask…but he should have presented the question as a hypothetical rather than make things up. But, I don’t blame the media for Joe’s situation. THE McCAIN CAMPAIGN IS AT FAULT. As a public figure, McCain is certaintly aware of the reality of how politics and news operate. He selfishly exploited Joe for political gain. If he wanted to bring up the subject, he should have simply asked the very same question of Obama at the debate and left the folksy Joe the Plumber stuff out. Instead, McCain droaned on and on about this poor guy and really set him up for this scrutiny. Blaming the media is just a weak argument by the McCain Campaign and/or McCain supporters to excuse their exploitation of this poor Joe.
6. Me Again | 10.17.08
McCain came up with the whole Blackberry concept right? Riiiight… He or his campaign should have known that as soon as his name was released, all of America was going search every dark corner of the internet. Democrats had nothing to do with the bad publicity of Joe Wutzhizname. They brought it on themselves.
7. Joe’s the man | 10.17.08
I think there is a big difference between exploiting and celebrating Joe the Plumber’s question and the response he elicited from Obama. Who cares if, as an employee of a licensed plumber he doesn’t have a license? What incentive is there for him to buy the company, get licensed, hire more employees and increase his income if he is going to be forced by the government to give away a bigger cut?
Joe the plumber, with his simple, forthright question, was able to get Obama to spew the soundbite of the century, “Share the wealth, it’s good for everybody”. I’m sure before he asked the question he never anticipated this kind of national notoriety. The focus should be on Obama’s Marxist reply, not Joe the Plumber’s personal life story.
8. Karen Rouse | 10.17.08
Jimmy Orr:
If your piece on McCain on Letterman was supposed to be bi-partisan, you “screwed up”.
I wonder if some Republicans even know how their words reflect exactly how they really feel. Case in point-McCain referred to Sen. Obama as, “that one”. Nice.
Karen Rouse
Norfolk, Va.
9. Barry | 10.17.08
Well, I saw the debate, and also read half a dozen articles about Joe the Plumber. I can’t say I feel sorry for him - first of all nothing that bad has happened to him, except his life is out there now, and it ain’t all pretty who’s fault is that?
The whole reason he has recieved so much attention, is that the McCain campaign decided to use him (what - 4x? 6x?) to score political points during a nationally televised presidential debate. Naturally when McCain is up there using this guy to run down Obama, the media is then going to see if any of those claims are factually accurate - that’s their job! And it turns out, that the whole story was told in a way that is highly misleading - and who’s fault is that?
As far as Joe himself goes, he is a lifelong Republican, who by his own admission went over to the Obama rally in his neighborhood to give Obama a hard time.
10. Just Wondering | 10.17.08
It’s amazing how, in just one day, the unbiased press can dig up so much information on a private citizen like Joe the Plumber. But when it comes to people like Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers the press hears no evil, sees no evil and speaks no evil.
11. hottopics | 10.17.08
John McCain what in the world were you thinking? I hate the fact that I even know of her. I say we take her off the endangered list and lock her up in a mental ward.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/10/bush-to-palin-b.html
12. Peggy | 10.17.08
I don’t understand how so many people miss the point of this whole Joe the plumber thing. It doesn’t matter if it was Joe the plumber, or Bertha the bag-lady, or Calvin the CEO of some large corporation. The point is that at the end of Obama’s reply he said that “when you spread the wealth around it’s good for everybody.” That is called socialism, which many of us seem to have forgotten about.
Plus it seems obvious to me that if they raise the taxes on whatever size business, those businesses will have to lay people off and/or raise the prices of their goods or services. So whatever money people aren’t paying in taxes, or getting in “tax credits”, (which is just another name for welfare,) they’ll just be paying in higher prices for the goods and/or services provided by the businesses.
13. Elizabeth Dwyer, Chicago | 10.17.08
Grandpa Letterman is so yesterday. He desperately still wants to have an audience. He should make a little more effort to know what he’s doing and know what he’s talking about. SPIN SPIN SPIN Give us some truth instead of tyring to up your ratings.
14. ace | 10.17.08
MCcain’s relationship with G Gordon Liddy should scare you all……..look himup online
15. mwf | 10.17.08
Gee, I don’t know….the “trickle down theory” which just means lets reward our very rich friends who helped us get into office who have more write-offs than anyone else so they actually end up paying a smaller percentage of income tax doesn’t really seem to trickle down.
Meanwhile, ’spreading the wealth’ just seems to correct the errors of the ‘trickle down’ theories.
Why you little people who make less than $250k a year are defending executive salaries, benefits, bonuses, golden parachutes is beyond me.
Do you somehow think that by supporting those inane ideals, you too, one day, will be the recipient of a $210 million dollar severance package for a company from which you were fired?
16. M. Tobias | 10.17.08
Oh, stop whining aobut hte increase in taxes already.
If Joe got the company and it earned $280,000 then he would pay an additional $778 in annual federal income tax. If you earned $280,000 $800 would not seen to be such a big increase.
Who should foot the $800 bill, the people who earn $50,000?
So stop the GOP whine about class warfare and pay some stinking tax for a change after 15 years of ruling.
17. L. Zieman | 10.17.08
Those who make fun of so-called “trickle-down” economics have no concept of economics at all. It’s impossible to “trickle-up.” Who ever has been employed by a “poor person?” If people aren’t allowed to make and keep money, there will be no employment–period. United States’ businesses do not choose to move to foreign locations or from one state to another on a whim. It’s because of local, state or national taxation policies. Poor Detroit and poor Ohio. Your unions have ruined your business climate. No federal government will ever be able to fix that! Use your brains, people.
18. The Big Picture | 10.17.08
It is time out for the stupidity we have some serious issues to deal with. Our future is at Stake!!!
19. soludo | 10.17.08
Yes, Sen. Biden puts foot in the mouth again. CNN news reported Biden lashing at Palin’s remarks ‘go to Pro-America areas’. I say….
Biden breached Palin’s freedom of speech and her rights to visit where she’s loved. if you guys are so nasty, mud slinging her. God give her the rights to say: go, pro-America. Obama is not. Obama went to Berlin to run his campaign, was he out of his freaking mind. ya, he’s icy cool because he imitates Hitler charisma. Biden apparently is senile and still proves himself a gaffe machine. pipe down, Biden, you don’t even speak like a good teacher do !!!
20. Chris Smith | 10.17.08
I wonder if some Republicans even know how their words reflect exactly how they really feel. Case in point-McCain referred to Sen. Obama as, “that one”. Nice.
Karen Rouse
Norfolk, Va.
Well Karen, since Obama keeps calling McCain George Bush, I think fair is fair. Sheese! Get a grip!!!
21. JohninSATX | 10.17.08
Of course the media is going to attach “joe the plumber.” What’s sad is, now Joe Biden the Senator and Barrack the Messiah are attacking him. Joe the plumber represents all of us. Hard working, middle class, people who work for the American Dream. Listen to what Obama said today. The the McCain campain is now about Joe the Plumber, that means you and me. It’s supposed to be about us in the first place. Based on pricipal of how I was raised and my morals, i cannot vote democrat this time around. i hate to admit it, but we need McCain and Palin to clean up Washington. If obama is there,we will have the same thing happening in washington and wallsteet, and continue to foot the bill. I can here joe biden telling, it’s only fair.
22. wes | 10.17.08
When did Socialism become a derogatory comment? Whats wrong with helping people out? I mean a majority of this country believes that this is a straight democratic country..it’s not, why get caught up with words…..I do believe that if you do well,as I have,it is patriotic and possibly your duty to help those around you. It isn’t only the person yet (primarily)the system that allows you to be successful in this country…if you don’t believe why aren’t people flooding to another country to try to “make it”. I also believe that 98% of the time those making over $250 have some degree of luck to thank, not solely work ethic. I know plenty of people(many Mexican Americans) who has work ethic like no other bit can’t dream of making $250k. So socialism while in it purest form has many faults but to use some aspects is beneficial.
23. Ken | 10.17.08
Joe is a hero, fifteen minutes, this is it. Joe asked the best question in the campaign.
24. Karen the Accountant | 10.17.08
Anyone notice how upset McCain got when Letterman asked about Gordon Liddy? Thought they were going to fight.
Also did anyone notice the whole in McCain’s shoe?
Thought that was funny for a man with 11 houses.
25. xpressed | 10.17.08
I agree with M. Tobias. The “Spread the wealth” by Obama referred simply to paying taxes– and maybe a little more tax, if you’re rich and can afford it–, not ‘give me your money so I can spend it on the poor,’ like those who try to paint Obama as a Socialist are trying to claim. The rich should stop trying to find/create more loopholes and share a due portion of their income that comes with paying taxes. That is the patriotic thing to due, since rich people use American resources just as much, if not more, than the poor. It’s not that hard to absorb a few hundred dollars more in taxes if your net take is $250,000 net income. When your net is less than $40K, a few hundred more or even a hundred more hurts.
As for Joe, blame John McCain for all the media attention. He’s the one who used Joe’s full name on TV in front of a national audience. He even gave us the area of the country Joe lives in. Now he’s try to say that Obama is the one who sent to media out to smear Joe, as if Obama would need to stoop that low. No such thing. John McCain surely knows there are fact-checkers out there pouring over everything said in the debates. This is the kind of thing that happens when you try to push the truth aside. If McCain hadn’t tried to make such a big case of this, Joe’s problems and lies wouldn’t have been exposed. The humiliation of Joe is McCain’s fault; next time, McCain better not shoot from the hip. I know it’s not the ‘maverick’ way to think things through, but I guarantee, no one can win an election by creating messes and then using your own mess in an attempt to smear your opponent…..
26. coginwheel | 10.17.08
If John McCain can LIE to David Letterman…which he DID and Letterman called him on it…then why should anyone else trust him to not LIE?
27. Lynn | 10.17.08
I haven’t really been scared until I have heard phrases like “spread the wealth around” and suddenly socialism flashes before my eyes…and Americans are saying O-bam-a in response to it, chanting in line. Does it not scare anyone else that we could easily be living in a socialist country in 3 weeks. I agree with Joe the Plumber, why would I better myself and try to be successful if you are going to take that success away and give it to everyone else? I have actually said to my husband that I might be quitting my job because our income together may put us in a tax bracket that is too high. The American dream/incentive is that you can pull yourself up with hard work and determination. The American dream has never been to pay the way for others who don’t feel like it. The danger of welfare and charity is that those who are given it constantly begin to hate the giver for the mere fact that they have to accept it. Read the book “Atlas Shrugged”. It is a great example of what our future could be and it’s not a great future. This is coming from a capitalist, not a republican or democrat. Has everyone lost their mind!
28. A. Hitler | 10.17.08
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
29. geraldine | 10.17.08
I just want to say that I love you Dave. McCain is tooooooooooo old for the job and his VP is not competent. Please lets change back to responsible spending. I am out here without any help.
30. P | 10.18.08
Joe’s attitude of “why should the wealthy pay more, that’s punishing success” shows exactly why trickle-down economics does NOT work.
What sort of blinkered, naive idiot thinks that those who begrudge paying an extra $800 in tax when they pull in a quarter million $ net will happily trickle *anything* but contempt down to those “beneath” them? Joe’s attitude is purest Republican greed in action. Greedy people hoard it all for themselves. Trickle down doesn’t work because of that. You’d think the middle class would have figured that much out already, what with stagnant wages and all that.
Ironically, Joe would be taxed LESS with Obama in the White House and might even be able to save and buy that company a little sooner, if he had any sort of idea how he was going to do it. He’d maybe be able to pay those back-taxes he owes the state a bit sooner too.
The really stupid thing is people who vote against their own interests time and time again, choosing the party which has shown itself to be no friend of the middle class, all because of irrational fear of such “socialist” ideas as the wealthy pulling their weight equally in the economy.
31. PhilZ | 10.18.08
Whoa Jimmy,
You skipped over the part where Mc Cain rants about Obama “palling around” with William Ayers, and Dave turns around and asks about McCains involvement with G. Gordon Liddy.
First, McCain acts like he doesn’t even know GGLiddy, then they go to a commercial. They come back from the commercial and McCain says he does know GGLiddy and that GGLiddy served his prison sentence, so he is OK now.
McCain was a guest on GGLiddy’s radio show in May of 2008 saying what good friends they were and how close their families are. Evidently they are closer than McCain (or Palin) would like to admit.
Look up Gordon Liddy on Wikipedia, and you will see he was convicted of the Watergate burglaries, and had conspired to murder, kidnap, etc. Give me a break. McCain is a hypocrite, tries to smear Obama with being an aquaintance of Ayers, while he himself is buddies with a convicted federal felon who was involved in the biggest political scandal of our lifetime.
32. jay | 10.18.08
Hey socialist democrats….. if you hate America so much, move to Russia, you’ll fit right in.
33. dom | 10.18.08
Joe the Plumber is now taking heat because in only a brief, unscripted, real-life encounter he kept Obama talking long enough for Obama to most accurately express his real tax policy — spread the wealth, meaning take from some to give to others. In that process a little bit of that wealth sticks to Obama’s fingers so he can get ahead by distributing it as party favors to his supporting organizations and people.
Today it’s supposedly $250K and above. Who’s to say that once in office Obama won’t lean further left and say, “The problem is MUCH worse than we thought, so that $250K threshold is now $200K — no wait — $150K — no wait — $100K — no wait — allright McCain was right, the threshold is now $42K.”
That tax-the-rich $250K is likely only a foot-in-the-door sales and negotiating tactic to gain initial public support.
Let’s hope Obama keeps talking, and real life immediately confronts his hypocritical, liberal yada-yada.
P.S. The well-worn soles on McCain’s shoes? Indication of someone who doesn’t think saving $18 billion a year by eliminating earmarks is chump change, but is instead a great start.
34. Mr. Reality | 10.18.08
Wow. Obama really has people brainwashed into thinking that socialism is a good idea. Spreading the wealth around to help people out? So that’s what our government is intended to do, eh? You people frighten me. You do understand how percentages work, right? Do I really need to explain it? The more you make, the more you pay. So you start to earn more and finally get ahead, and then they hit you with an even higher tax bracket to keep you down and make things harder, so you’re not only paying more, you’re paying a higher percentage of what you earn.
Why all the class warfare? Why the hate of those that have worked hard and made it? How do you think that taxing those “evil” wealthy people out of the country is going to make your miserable life any better? Do you actually think your government is going to take their money and somehow give it to you? It frustrates me to no end. Freddy and Fanny - socialized mortgages. Gee, that worked out great, didn’t it.
35. Gary | 10.18.08
Just, dang. I had just become an adult when we elected an unknown, unqualified President (yeah, I voted for him, I was young and stupid) and we still haven’t fixed everything that Carter broke (Iran, sub-prime mortgages, etc). Now we’re going to elect Carter II? How stupid.
36. Big Pete | 10.18.08
You know dom(#34), you’ve got a good point.
Who’s to say that once in office McCain won’t lean over and say “Holy smokes, we’re in debt like never before and it’s killing us! I think some revenue enhancements are in order after all, let’s start with those who net $250K a year…”
By the way, that’s what Reagan called taxes. “Revenue Enhancements”. He didn’t raise taxes, he created revenue enhancements. A pile of manure by any other name smells just as bad, eh? He raised taxes all right, just like Mondale said he would, but he called them by a different name and no one got very tweaked about it. Oh, plus he started deficit spending like never before, a practice that has been super-sized by our current President.
But here’s the deal, guys and gals. There’s this thing called reality. Bush and his Borrow and Spend Republican buddies have nearly bankrupted the country. Eliminate 18 billion in earmarks? That’d be great. Now take a look at the Iraq debacle. 18 billion is chicken feed compared to that.
Our national debt is over 10 trillion dollars. And neither McCain nor Obama can do all the stuff they say they will without borrowing and/or raising taxes. Tell me Republican friends, how are we going to pay off 10 trillion? Cut wasteful spending? I’ve heard that from Republicans for years and all it has translated into is more debt. Debt beyond belief.
Sooner or later you gotta pay the piper. At some point you have to pay off the credit card or it will take over your finances. Can’t you guys see that? You just want to borrow money until the Chinese own the whole freakin’ USA?
Increasing taxes for people who net 250,000 bucks and above annually recognizes reality. Putting it off guarantees our taxes will go up, too. And it ain’t socialism! It’s called being responsible! Whaddya want to leave to your grandkids in your will? Trillions of dollars of debt?
37. Benson Lord | 10.20.08
If paying taxes is patriotic then why do celebrities such as Madonna shelter their income in countries the Netherlands? The same is true for U-2 (the great humanitarians) and the Rolling Stones, sheltering their income from the heavy taxes socialistic countries of Great Britain and Ireland.
38. Greg | 10.21.08
Why does everyone just brush off the GORDON LIDDY question???? [AND, I might add, John’s “answer” to the question??]
39. northyorker | 10.23.08
How can people still repeat the age-old repugnican dupe of dupicans “trickle down economics” repugnican age-old dupe. What in the world is left to trickle down when you hear of the unbelievably ridiculous salaries of the ceo’s. Peanuts, if that. The word is that 95% of the wealth is hoarded by 5% of the population folks. That sucks!
40. jaz | 10.25.08
The shoes was a political tactic, that help a prior nominee get more votes after he was accused of being too rich and out of touch. Mccain kept raising his feet so the camera can get the bottom of this shoe.
But it didn’t work, nothing they have tried has worked b/c they are not authentic.
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1. Alvin Graham | 10.17.08
Senator McCain proclaims America First.
He has stated that he knows how to get Osama Bin Laden. If he really knows, and if America First is deep within his being, why doesn’t he give us tell us now? Why would he allow more brave Americans to die unnecessarily while he keeps this valuable information to himself? Why wait until after the election? If he loses, will he tell us?