General Colin Powell calling up Rush Limbaugh to share some laughs? Nope. Powell mentioned Limbaugh last night saying there's "another version of the Republican party waiting to emerge." Not Limbaugh's version of the GOP. Limbaugh predictably replied.
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Limbaugh appoints Colin Powell head of GOP
By Jimmy Orr | 05.20.09
Normally Colin Powell doesn’t get involved in political scuffles.
That’s not to say that political discourse is a bad thing. It can be wildly entertaining. But that’s not his M.O.
The general dipped his toe into the pond last night. He didn’t go off and pull a Jeanine Garofalo or anything. His criticism was mild. It’s hard to even call it criticism.
The Boston Globe reports Powell was speaking to a well-heeled crowd last night (including Patriots quarterback Tom Brady) when he mentioned the talk show host.
“Rush Limbaugh says, ‘Get out of the Republican Party.’ Dick Cheney says, ‘He’s already out.’ I may be out of their version of the Republican Party, but there’s another version of the Republican Party waiting to emerge once again,” Powell told the crowd.
Limbaugh responds
What happens next is entirely predictable. Not foolproof, but predictable. Limbaugh fights back. Although he did not engage in a war of words with comedian Wanda Sykes when she called him out during the White House Correspondents Dinner.
But had no problem in lighting Powell up.
“Colin Powell represents the stale, the old, the worn-out GOP that never won anything,” he said on his radio program. “The party of Gerald Ford, Nelson Rockefeller, Bill Scranton, Arnold Schwarzenegger and those types of people. Has anybody heard Colin Powell say a single word against Obama’s radicalism — or Pelosi or Reid, for that matter? Maybe he has but his fawning media sure hasn’t reported if he has said it.”
Then Limbaugh acted as Powell’s spokesperson outlining what he believes the former Secretary of State supports:
- Massive debt
- Slashing the military’s budget
- Federal funding of abortion
- Activist judicial nominees
- Nationalizing private industries
Duran, Duran
Later in the program, Limbaugh quoted Roberto Duran (no mas, no mas) when he announced he was resigning as the “titular head of the Republican party.” Then he appointed someone else to replace him. Any guesses?
“There frankly is someone far more qualified and capable and more in tune with the Republican Party than I,” he said. “And that would be General Colin Powell. So now I pass the baton to Colin Powell as the titular head of the Republican Party.”
Dictionary please
Certainly there are many other blogs that wouldn’t have to look up the word “titular” — but that’s not us.
Titular: Existing or being such in title only; nominal; having the title but none of the associated duties, powers, etc.: the titular head of the company.
No word on whether Powell will accept the honor.
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Some speculate that if Powell does not accept the position, Duran Duran is next in line. Follow us on Twitter and we’ll fill you in.
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2. AdamG | 05.20.09
Do the leaders of the Democratic Party seem so radical because they are radicals or because we’ve shifted so far away from the right? What’s ironic is that the last Administration wasn’t that far right on traditional Republican economic policies.
The “leaderless” GOP won’t find a new matriarch amongst the current elephants in the tribe and will most likely find a new voice to bridge the rift.
3. kolef88 | 05.20.09
Definition of titular:
For example, “Dolly Parton is the titular head of country music.”
4. mel | 05.20.09
Its simple folks.
Powell; guy who served his country, balanced, level headed, respectful
Limbaugh; pill popping, drug addicted ranting hypocrite. The death of the republican party.
5. Dustin | 05.20.09
Damn..Another 3 minutes of my life I’ll never get back because of Rush Limbaugh. I would make a response, but, just like the article above, Limbaugh still wouldn’t make an actual point..Just pointing out the flaws of his arch nemiseseseses. As Einstein once said..A solution that only identifies the problem is not a solution.
*That* is what’s wrong with the GOP.
6. Frankel | 05.20.09
If the GOP accepted moderates, I would join the party today, but there is no room for people who compromise or reach across the aisle in Congress. Alas, the Democrats don’t a place for moderate voters like me.
8. BC | 05.20.09
I really hope you’re kidding about having to look up “titular” in a dictionary. Journalists used to be literate. Or perhaps this was just your way of saying “I think my readers are too ignorant to know this word so let me play dumb and find a definition for them.” I mean come on, if Limbaugh can expect his listeners to understand it, it’s hardly obscure.
12. George Berg | 05.20.09
Party-Party -Party. I’m tired of party politcs. I would like a person that is for the USA.
13. Rae | 05.20.09
I LOVE Limbaugh, He makes me feel proud to be a gun firing, money hoarding, uneducated American. I can now hide behind both Catholicism and the sun eclipsing Fat man - Limbaugh!
14. john | 05.20.09
obviously the respondents here have no idea what the republican party stands for. and frankly neither does private powell. he seems to have embraced the wave as to not drown in his republican principles. I on the other hand would rather drown with my principals at my side then to capitulate to the wave. where do you stand on your principals my friends? as that is what defines your character.
15. greg | 05.20.09
limbaugh ran out of kansas city on a rail, hides behind a mic, never elected to anything. is this the best the conservatives have, if so, obama is a shoe in in 2012
16. David A. Smith | 05.20.09
I think its safe to say that if Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh are the face of the Republican party post-GWB, than it will be a long time before the party gets a whiff of power again.
18. roneldo | 05.20.09
I’m A man who loves Rushie baby . Oooooooh He’s such a big strong man with all his smarty pant things. Got to be near him to breath if only he was straight and drug free and wasent so gutless and the biggest looser in the entire free and not free world. To bad cause weak men like me like weak men like limpbaugh.
19. KwakuA | 05.20.09
Since when did any individual earn the right to order another out of a political party?
There is class and there is trash.
20. Bob Barney | 05.20.09
Rush Limbaugh does not level ad hominem attacks against Colin Powell, he attacks the positions that Powell has taken. I don’t see any of the Rush bashers doing that here. Instead of explaining what they don’t like about what Rush says, they attack his person.
Liberals say they are kinder, gentler and more caring than conservatives, but in truth they are complete hypocrites, always resorting to personal ad hominem attacks against leading conservatives rather than their political positions.
21. Chah? | 05.20.09
(The old Republican) “party of Gerald Ford, Nelson Rockefeller…”? Also count in all the other former Republican presidents and senators except for the likes of ‘W,’ Strom Thurmond and Joseph McCarthy. Obama is no more “radical” than a Clinton, Carter, Kennedy or Roosevelt. From that far from the right it doesn’t take much of anything to appear “radical.”
The GOP is now a party that has been captured by an amusing radio show clown with little education spouting distortions, half-truths and mischaracterizations for entertainment (with his legions of ditto-heads) and Libertarian cultists. It is little wonder that their economic policies brought on such a stupendous disaster.
You can tell who the old Republicans are, they are the ones not wearing tin-foil hats.
22. Zart | 05.20.09
OMG…..Rush is such a waste of human space. Somebody stuff a sock in his mouth. He doesn’t need any more hypocrite pills.
23. Waxjob | 05.20.09
Please,don’t pick a sensible person to go to the forefront of this party. Pick another moron, Rush will do, so you can continue to alienate everyone with more than a high school education. That way us Democrats will be in Washington forever!
24. rupert spencet | 05.20.09
i am at a lost for words to envisage a mature and dyed in the group as the venerable republic party is allowing idiots and draft dodgers lie Rush, Sean , Rudolph and Dick Cheney to lead them. they do not care one iota about this country, there goal is to line their by what ever means necessary.they are rabbits wearing wolf’s clothing.
25. gene | 05.20.09
2 years from now with a 15 trillion dollar debt, that was passed by the democrats during bushes last term. will put us in the such a bad situation that this will seem like a party, for every troop we take out of iraq we move 3 to afganistan.keeping gitmo open,starting the tribunals ect ect…. obama will be know as the next Jimmy Carter or the third term of bush…..mark my words and yes the republicans stink too…….
27. captbilly | 05.20.09
I was talking to my 16 year old son the other day, and he suggested that rather than the normal up and down power struggles of the two dominant American political parties, we may actually be watching the end of the Republican party as one of the two parties in America. He believes that the Republican party has allowed the evangelical radical right to gain so much power that there is no way that they can ever return to the mainstream. At first I thought, ” well that’s just the voice of someone who has not lived long enough to see several normal political cycles”, but I am actually wondering now if he is correct.
If this were 1860 and we hadn’t already settled the issue of federal power vs. states power, I would be expecting some of these conservative republicans to be suggesting leaving the Union and becomming their own country. We must purge the religious radicals from the government, or risk watching the US turn into our own version of Afghanistan under Taliban rule. I don’t really care about gay marriage, abortion rights, or school prayer, but I do care about the idea of separation of church and state.
Those guys who started this country were not stupid men, they knew how dangerous it was to mix faith with government. I am not saying I am against religion, only that religion and government do not mix well, and in a country as diverse as America the idea of mixing religion and government becomes a totally unworkable notion. Even if we wanted to make or laws based on religious beliefs, what religios beliefs would we pick? Should we go with the majority over the Bill of Rights guaranties of the minority. And what is the majority religion in America anyway? I was brought up Catholic, but like most of my friends I would have to honestly say that I do not practice any longer, and I am absolutely sure I do not agree witht he Catholic Church on a host of issues. I would expect that most Americans are int he same boat as me, vaguely religious upbringing but no longer practicing, but on top of that, they are no longer practicing dozens of different religions with wildely differing veiws. How does one make laws based on religious views that are so diverse and not even precticed?
28. joe | 05.20.09
Limbaugh (a person traveling under no credentials at all)is the apologist for big oil, big corporations, Wall Street, executives, George Bush and Chaney, the rich, etc. He is so against the regular person and unions, and anything that would give a break to the middle class, I don’t understand why anyone listens to this fool.
29. Kase | 05.20.09
Limbaugh is a radio talk show host, like Jerry Springer is on TV nothing more and nothing less. He hurts the party more than helps it, basically if he could get more money and better ratings he would switch to being a democrat. He cares about nothing but himself. Just listen to him, really listen and you will here it.
30. Merrill | 05.20.09
For John in Post #14
Please, sir, show some respect for a man who has served his country with distinction from Viet Nam to the State Department and beyond. You may agree or disagree with his positions, his concept of what the Republican Party should be (and be FOR), or his choice of neckties. But please don’t refer to him as “private powell.”
31. Chuck O. | 05.20.09
Hey George Berg, I agree. However, the only group really for USA are Libertarians, and they never get anywhere because they put Truth and Country before party… so the party flounders. They are intellectually honest, philisophically consistant, and favor freedom and civility above all else. Sadly, party politics usually wins the day, to the great loss of all the rest of us.
32. jo | 05.20.09
the only party left with any room for conservatism is the Republican party … not opinion, just fact ……. conservatism comes in many forms but none of those are allowed in the Democratic party …… Limbaugh’s main point is VERY GOOD and millions of Americans have the same question whether they like Limbaugh or not - why does Powell not criticize anything about Obama ??? same question goes for the press ??? there is much to criticize about Obama starting with breaking his campaign pledge about fair campaign finance and going up to ridiculing the budget deficit of Bush and the quadrupling it it 100 days
33. Richard | 05.20.09
Colin Powell could have been one of the great American heros. The day he held up the vial at the UN claiming that Iraq had WMDs and mobile trailers where checmical and/or biolgical weapons were made, he blew it for all time. He could have stood up to Bush/Cheney and quit the State Department. He could have then, made further statements as a private citizen against the folly of invading Iraq. After all he did make the statement regarding Iraq, that if you break it, you own it. It is a shame he did not stick to his convictions. His actions show that he is too weak to be in contention for the head of any party. Like MacArthur, he just needs to fade away.
34. Sammy D | 05.20.09
If you have to look up words that Limbaugh uses, maybe you shouldn’t be a writer?
35. Jack Tucker | 05.20.09
Whatever happened to “support our troops”? How dare Limbaugh insult a decorated war hero!!!
I find the GOP meltdown to be very humorous in a dark sort of way.
The GOP’s only claim to fame seems to be “Remember Ronnie Raygun!!!” and “We hate Democrats.”
I doubt that’s going to win many converts. Especially given the fact the GOP spent the last 8 years running people out of the GOP. Which they proudly continue to do.
Good luck, GOP, you’re gonna need it.
36. Wada | 05.20.09
re: Rush Limbaugh/Dick Cheney—I love honest differences of opinion but isn’t their a correlation between obesity and a person’s emotional state?
37. Willy | 05.20.09
Quote: “If this were 1860 and we hadn’t already settled the issue of federal power vs. states power, I would be expecting some of these conservative republicans to be suggesting leaving the Union and becomming their own country…”
Where have you been?? How about the Republic of Texas. We did it before for 9 years as a country of our own.
We now have a 14 BILLION dollar surplus, low taxes, no state income tax and the 15th largest economy in the world, created over 70% of the new jobs in the US in 2008, and are the largest exporter of any state. Shall we buy out poor bankrupt California?? No been there several times and wouldn’t have it.
38. CF | 05.20.09
Typical Liberal rantings here as usual: “Attack the messenger, dodge the message”.
Why don’t Liberals ever attack the message, you ask? Because they have no principles to stand on. They are all about “appearance”, “coolness” and “presentation” factors. In other words, “It’s not what Obama says, it’s how he says it”. It’s “hope and change”, but never “results and meaning”.
So keep calling Rush an “old, fat, white, pill-popper” if it makes you feel better about your own sorry situation.
39. Samaritan | 05.20.09
If Colin Powell IS the new leader of the Republican Party then my decision to leave the party in support the Constitution is affirmed. Neither party does, or is likely to, support the full Constitution any time soon.
Powell’s ideology can be described as a lot of things but conservative, constitutional and freedom-loving is not among them.
40. Anton | 05.20.09
CaptBilly.
Respectfully I disagree. The term “seperation of church and state” is a misnomer (kind of like “pro-choice”). In reality the constitution reads something along the lines of “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”. If anything, those who are trying to eliminate church and religion from the country are the ones leading to its demise. Instead, those of us who know what this country once stood for, still stand and shout, “give us back our country”.
Back on topic: If it acts like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. I was so disappointed when Powell decided to leave the Republican party when he supporting the man who was opposed to everything a Republicna is supposed to believe. He might say he hasn’t left, but actions speak louder than words. I lost all respect for Powell back in October. I thought he was a man with conviction, not a race voter. Sorry Powell, you’re out. Sad, being as though ten years ago you could have walked into the Oval Office if you dared to run.
My observation is that Limbaugh calls it how it is and if you don’t agree with him, that’s too bad, but it doesn’t change the reality.
41. RichieK | 05.20.09
Hold on here! All of you, regardless of your party affiliation, should be thankful that you live in a country that we can say these things. Regardless of whether you agree with on another or not, look at your own lot in life and see how you can make it better. It’s so easy to criticise people you do not face and a I guarantee you that most of these discenters don’t vote either but only complain.
If you are so unhappy with things, take responsibility and get off your butt and make a change or you are no better than the fools who have uninformed opinions.
It’s a shame to see what our self centered populous has become. Wha Wha!
43. imo | 05.20.09
I think everyone gives Limbaugh too much credit. This is just more of his opinion, to which he is entirely entitled to. But when it comes right down to it, he’s not a politician. He’s just a radio guy that makes a lot of noise, much like many many many other media people (who fall on both sides of the aisle). I’m one of the few Americans who can find good viewpoints coming forth from both sides. And when someone else has a different opinion, I don’t automatically assume that means they are stupid. That’s the greatest problem in America right now, the utter intolerance for differences of opinion. Americans are all at war amongst themselves over who’s right or wrong. It’s okay to differ in viewpoints. Really, it is.
44. Wiley | 05.20.09
Smoke and mirrors, my friends. While we argue about this worthless nonsense, the Federal Government is taking control of our banks, car companies, insurance companies, energy companies, newspapers, healthcare… and that’s just the first 100 days. What will be left with this administration is through?
45. liberal | 05.20.09
the republican party has thus far shown how distant it is from the rest of the country. They represent that which makes the top income earners, and thus those who appear to have the most voice. The people have realized that, “omg, we actually don’t have a president that values what we value”. Is it our fault that the “principles” of the Republican party are simply not in tune with today’s people? Its similar to those who are Catholic, as stated by the individual in the post above. They are raised Catholic, but do not follow the practices because they are not practical. That is what the Republican party has become, NOT practical.
46. Wayne | 05.20.09
Is it my imagination, or is it more of the liberal comments that show no sense of spelling or grammar? It is a toss up between Greg and Kase.
47. Victor Brewer | 05.20.09
they all support debt! it’s like the pigs each telling the other they are dirty! The only ones who do not support debt are those who wish to abolish the federal reserve and establish a backed currency system once again, yes it would cause a collapse of the economy, but once the initial shock was over, our currency would be one of the most desired in the world, if not the most desired, and there would be virtually no inflation! The vast majority of the population does not understand where this country and the world in general is heading! Watching such patriots struggle for freedom like Ron Paul is so sad to me anymore, because soo many ignore them.
48. mc | 05.20.09
Which Rush message would you like to see attacked?
He distorts, misleads, obfuscates and twists the truth to fit his tired ideology. Then, he doesn’t have to be fair does he - he’s an entertainer. Rush is a hypocrite - he castigates as inferior and wants to lock up drug users yet when busted with his very large personal stash of drugs, it’s not quite his fault is it. Rush is old, fat, and white - his eating well, constantly smoking cigars and drinking Courvoisier is a perfect role model for his fan base.
CF I don’t know how you can not understand liberal principles. You learned them in church. Fairness, respect, charity, family, love. They are not just GOP values.
49. FormerDem | 05.20.09
I have read all the posts up to this point and there does not seem to be one substantive claim or criticism of Rush’s beliefs here. Its fine to disagree with the guy, but I have not seen one post that addresses what Rush believes and talks about, just a bunch of personal attacks. All the rantings about big business, oil companies, not caring about individuals, etc. are just what you have been told to think about Limbaugh. Try actually listening to the man and then make up your mind.
50. T.J Fod | 05.20.09
That the Republican Party is actually losing to our ‘leaders’ from the Democratic Party should be a seismic shock to anyone who understands and values Western Civilization. Yet this is what Colin (U.N.) Powell has decided to embrace. His chest of medals do not impress me as much as his cowardice in the face of getting us into this war. It is a fact of history. Nothing Colin U.N. Powell says or does to embrace radical fringe ideas that are opposed to Western Civilization will change that. He is just another rich guy on the make for his next speach.
Consider how the Democratic Party is using the normal cycles of economics, jobs and personal net worth to convince average people of the doom we live in. While ‘jobs’ are crucial to a successful nation, understanding where capital comes from is far more important than a ‘job’. Jobs can be created if the masses understood how wealth created jobs. Alas people are being fed nonsense about an economic model that has only worked in a Franciscan Monastery….For this “changed ” economy to work, we will need to surrender the freedoms that Western Civilization and American might has offered us. Colin U.N. Powell has decided which side he is on. And that’s fine.
So too the cycles of politics can be understood by mature persons. Yet Colin U.N. Powell please explain how it is now somehow enlightened to be for gay marriage or for the president’s aggressive pro-abortion stance and bigoted if you are not. It’s really simple. If you want to be popular with the press, you agree with fringe thinking radicals the press likes. If you support the values of Western Civilization, you don’t support fringe thinking radicals.
Colin U.N. Powell has decided he can make more money making speeches this way vs. that. He compromised his values a long time ago.
T.J. Fod
51. Justin | 05.20.09
Sometimes I wonder is Rush Limbaugh is secretly a liberal. Because he sure does do the liberals a huge favor by solidifying the stereotypes of Republicans in the media. We can thank him personally in two years when Democrats increase their flex in Congress, and again in two more when Obama wins a second term.
52. Willy | 05.20.09
Quote: “Good luck, GOP, you’re gonna need it.”
Really, Jack?? Get over it. Obama’s dis-approval rating of the handling of the country, has gone up from 10% to 29% since February.
Remember that almost 60 MILLION voted against Obama, 45.7 %. I would not call that a fading GOP party.
53. Jack Tucker | 05.21.09
Willy, I’m an independent and consider both major parties equally corrupt.
Why stupid Americans continue to vote for Corporate Candidate A or B and expect anything other than more of the same is beyond me.
Oh, never mind. “Stupid” pretty much explains it.
Having said that, according to the reports I’ve been reading, the GOP has lost about half its membership over the past eight years. Georgie Boy did to the GOP what LBJ did to the Dems.
Obama & the Dems have absolutely nothing to do with the collapse of the GOP. That’s pretty much the Bush and his rubber stamp GOP congress legacy.
The Repubs I’ve known were far more interested in fiscal responsibility (”conservatism”) than they were catering to a bunch of Bible thumping religious fundies. But, if the GOP thinks Bible thumping religious fundies are going to win them elections, good luck to them.
And for those who follow Limpbow’s every word as gospel, let me make this clear for you:
HE LIES. (or otherwise distorts the truth to the point is effectively a lie)
See how easy that is?
54. Willy | 05.21.09
Jack I am an independent too. I vote Libertarian. George Bush’s poll rating has gone UP 6% since he left office and he hasn’t made a single speech!
So has Cheney’s.
Quote: “As Dick Cheney prepares to give a major speech on the battle against terrorism, a new national poll suggests that favorable opinions of the former vice president are on the rise.
Fifty-five percent of people questioned in the poll say they have an unfavorable opinion of the former vice president. Thirty-seven percent say they have a favorable opinion of Cheney, up 8 percentage points from January when he left office.
The two party system is alive and well. I can’t understand why a third party doesn’t rise and prosper. The times are ready for it.
55. Extreme Moderate | 05.21.09
Spot on Mel. For a party that bangs the pot about integrity the loudest, it’s rather striking that they’d leave the person who walked the walk out in the cold in exchange for the hypocrite who does nothing but talk the talk.
56. James Stepp | 05.21.09
Well, if Colin Powell did take over the Republican party it would be a massive improvement over their current leadership. I believe it would be the beginning of the way back for the party from the current flaked out toilet they seem to swimming in now.
57. AmericanMan | 05.21.09
The Rubepublicans have self-destructed and 21st century conservative Americans will create a new party, free of closet liberals.
58. Jack Tucker | 05.21.09
Willy, I’m not sure what you are attempting to prove with those irrelevant poll numbers, according to what I’ve read, the GOP has lost membership over the past eight years. According to conservative columnists, they attribute that to the GOP catering to Bible thumping religious fundies.
It’s of no concern to me one way or another. The US would be far better off if both major parties totally disappeared. Neither provides anything of value other than catering to Wall Street bankers, their only real constituency.
Having said that, if they both disappeared, they would be immediately replaced by whichever party Wall Street bankers chose to finance. Politicians will always cater to those who finance them. And, “we, the people” aren’t financing them, Wall Street bankers are.
The reason third party candidates have no chance in national elections is because election laws are designed primarily to prevent indies from having a chance at winning elections without financial support from Wall Street bankers.
But, the fault lies with “we, the people,” not Wall Street bankers. The place to start is with election laws. If you can convince 50 million people to agree with you, you’re on your way.
60. Gary R. HEISER | 05.22.09
I agree with Jack Tucker #58. We need to throw out all the do nothings in Washington D.C. The Democrats and Republicans. All they did was screw-up this country. And to think Obama is already running for a second term in office. I don’t think these two parties will make it that far ever again. The American people are fed-up.We are tired of bailing out losers.Wall Street/ banks/ broke companies/ and now the feds want to bail out broken states like California etc.Its time to take America back, before its too late. A nice revolution would straighten out these worthless do nothing politicians. That are in office for themselves, on a money hungry power trip. Destroying our U.S. Contitution before our very eyes as we speak.
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1. GOP | 05.20.09
Two words: Nervous Breakdown.